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@Mharman
Another correction, in addendum to this update.
Get ready for another, because I already unvoted earlier
Terraria Mafia #1 - DP1
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923
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@Casey_Risk
Where
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@Casey_Risk
Nvm I’ll check through your posts
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@Mikal
I hate to say this but I’m really starting to town rews supa790 seems genuine as shit
I actually have been town reading him for a bit, but contrariwise, 790 is the one thing making me doubt that read.
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@Mharman
#709
Vote Count
Casey (3/8) - Ultra, Wylted
Vader (3/8) - Lunatic, Savant, Pie
Cerulean (1/8) - Resurget
VTNL (1/8) - Irontoaster
Joebob (1/8) - Cerulean
Mikal (1/8) Banana
Not Voting (4) Whiteflame, Joebob, Vader, Mikal/Castin
Found it. So I’m having a bit of a skill issue when it comes to seeing all votes. Perhaps the players could tag me when they change their vote? Help me help you, please? Obviously I can’t force anyone.
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@Mikal
790 seems genuine as shit
Don't let him beguile you. If you knew supa you would know this is counter to behavior of his. He just admitted to lying because he didn't want it to be seen the wrong way lol. That's not what town supa does.
I distinctly remember a game called shocking tv moments (Thanks casey) where supa was a town compulsive roleblocker who got turned into a vanilla. He didn't read that message I guess and forgot to announce it off the bat dp2 and claimed he roleblocked joebob and apologizes for it: here: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/11684-shocking-tv-moments-dp2?page=2&post_number=31
"Normally if I make a mistake like this or think I have no hope, then I am gonna say screw it and just give up trying but since it's my first game back in a minute and for the game to end so early with a twist, I'll put some effort into ensuring that we don't mislynch here for some silly reason versus sulking at a mistake" 49
"I mean town are going to lose no matter what because the eventual train is going to come onto me and since the wagon is already building it's pretty much pointless to even argue. Best case scenario is we no lynch here and I just get lynched next DP. Fuck I absolutely screwed the pooch with this one." 50
I actually remember this and thinking "damn dude you sound pathetic, stick up for yourself a bit, it was a mistake town can understand that. "
As opposed to here where he just attempts to hide the fact that he messed up and hopes it goes un noticed rather than bringing attention to it. And it worked for him, he didn't end up getting lynched that game! So why would he change it up here and try to be sneaky? Doesn't make sense.
Anyways I am telling you to ignore your gut, I think it's wrong about whiteflame. Let's focus on facts and behavior and get this done. Your gut was wrong about me too so I think you just are getting yourself too paranoid.
If the Post #816 vote count is missing any votes, just re-do the vote. Also, when you do it, tag me please? 👉👈🥺
Also this is basically a slip, but supa just agreed with me that from my POV ref should be seen as scummy for defending him so much and being non committal about lynching supa. But supa was supposedly scum reading me, and currently his vote is still on me. So why would my pov even matter if he thinks I am scum?
This should be a red flag to anyone reading into supa.
Okay technically he unvoted here to do mikals vote test thing, but he never retracted his scum read on me.
Im not voting until I wake up in the morning fyi. I want to sleep on the decision
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@Lunatic
"I mean town are going to lose no matter what because the eventual train is going to come onto me and since the wagon is already building it's pretty much pointless to even argue. Best case scenario is we no lynch here and I just get lynched next DP. Fuck I absolutely screwed the pooch with this one." 50
It's funny that you bring this quote up, because I feel like he's acting similarly here, acting as though he's bound to be mislynched today no matter what even though the wagon on him has actually been cool for a little while now.
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@Lunatic
Also this is basically a slip, but supa just agreed with me that from my POV ref should be seen as scummy for defending him so much and being non committal about lynching supa. But supa was supposedly scum reading me, and currently his vote is still on me. So why would my pov even matter if he thinks I am scum?
I don't really think this is that damning tbh. Especially considering the last sentence of his post.
I don’t think it’s weird and obvious I’m going to agree with what he’s saying to an extent cuz I’m town but if I’m in anyone else’s shoes I’m sus
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@Mikal
Who are your top scum reads right now? If you could lynch anyone, who would you choose?
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@Vader
If you think you're going to be mislynched, you should be giving your reads as well
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@Casey_Risk
It's funny that you bring this quote up, because I feel like he's acting similarly here, acting as though he's bound to be mislynched today no matter what even though the wagon on him has actually been cool for a little while now.
I mean he didn't get that way til 800 posts in though, is the big difference, and hes been a topic of discussion for a while now.
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@Casey_Risk
I don't really think this is that damning tbh. Especially considering the last sentence of his post.
I don't see how that last line changes things, but you've been absolutely contrarian to everything I have said this day phase so far, so I guess that's to be expected at this point.
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@Casey_Risk
I would like a character claim from Casey
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@Lunatic
Do you townread Wylted?
What’s your read on Casey?
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@Lunatic
I don't see how that last line changes things, but you've been absolutely contrarian to everything I have said this day phase so far, so I guess that's to be expected at this point.
It's not that I still scumread you, I just get the strong feeling that you v Luna is a town v town fight.
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@ILikePie5
I would like a character claim from Casey
Right, because the one thing we haven't had enough of yet today is claims.
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@ILikePie5
Do you townread Wylted?
kinda but I buy his claim for now. Also hes been kind of not as active which resembles his town play from last game, where I feel like as scum he's a little more motivated to post.
What’s your read on Casey?
I town read her early posts. I'll prolly be more suspicious of her if she derails the supa lynch, like I am getting the vibe she is but it could just be that I have had unpopular opinions this day phase and shes just finding it hard to buy anything I say, which is annoying but fair. I haven't been selling people that great, maybe on account of the fact I told town I hope they would lose earlier lol.
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@Casey_Risk
Whiteflame or supa.
Leaning whiteflame.
Sus on pie
I’m not sure I buy the compulsive visitor shit. Inb4 he would never do that as scum. 3 games he’s did it and every-time I get this gut feeling I’m right. Almost 100 percent on my scum call outs with him. Just vividly remember arguing with Luna over something similar in my first game back. “Wf would not do something so lazy” and I called it out in the first page and was right. I’m getting those same vibes again.
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@Mikal
I’m not sure I buy the compulsive visitor shit. Inb4 he would never do that as scum. 3 games he’s did it and every-time I get this gut feeling I’m right. Almost 100 percent on my scum call outs with him. Just vividly remember arguing with Luna over something similar in my first game back. “Wf would not do something so lazy” and I called it out in the first page and was right. I’m getting those same vibes again.
I just don't think he would try a scummy role when it didn't work last time. Also I just really hate pushing people on role claims over behavior in general.
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@Lunatic
His behavior is also bad. Go back and ISO him.
VTl whiteflame
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@Mikal
Whiteflame or supa.Leaning whiteflame.Sus on pie
I agree with the sus on Pie. In fact, I'd say he's my scummiest player rn. I don't like the way he's been going back and forth on who he's pushing. First he thinks Luna v Vader is an early bus (???), then he's agreeing with Wylted that I'm probably scum, then he's back to pushing Vader. Still wants me to claim though after practically everyone else has already done so.
I’m not sure I buy the compulsive visitor shit. Inb4 he would never do that as scum. 3 games he’s did it and every-time I get this gut feeling I’m right. Almost 100 percent on my scum call outs with him. Just vividly remember arguing with Luna over something similar in my first game back. “Wf would not do something so lazy” and I called it out in the first page and was right. I’m getting those same vibes again.
Yeah, that's the thing about those sort of arguments. Experienced players come to know their own metas and know that everyone else also knows their own meta, so they know to switch it up from time to time. That's why I hate self-analysis as an argument and give it very little weight.
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@Mikal
His behavior is also bad. Go back and ISO him.
Anything in particular stand out to you?
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@Casey_Risk
He says he does the non commital shit and town as scum but everytime he’s did it that I recall it’s as scum. It’s like half assing reads and sayinf maybe this and maybe that without ever really locking in on anything. It always bothers me and it’s possible he does it as town but the entire post he made about supa. I’d have to find. Just really read wrong to me
This is also, a post.