So, are we finally going to admit now that Trump and the republican party are not the party of the "forgotten man", or we just going to keep pretending that the democrats represent the elites because they get celebrities to endorse them?
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@Double_R
Its time for people to pay for their own healthcare instead of expecting from others to pay for them.
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@LucyStarfire
Its time for people to pay for their own healthcare instead of expecting from others to pay for them.
'Others' being the government and insurance companies who collect their taxes and contributions??
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@Umbrellacorp
'Others' being the government and insurance companies who collect their taxes and contributions??
No.
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@LucyStarfire
LOL!
Who then?
Please learn more economics from chat gpt.
No offense.
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@Umbrellacorp
Who then?
The people who pay for it.
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@LucyStarfire
The people who pay for it.
Healthcare explained for you: You pay health insurance, month after month. When you need medical assistance the company pays for it since you have paid contributions.
The problem in america is that health insurance is not madatory and millions do not have it. Plus, contributions are relatively high for those who have it.
So it is not 'others' paying for your healthcare but rather the health insurance company, since you have paid contributions. If you are not insured then no one will pay for your health care, you will still have to pay out of pocket (expensive).
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@Umbrellacorp
So it is not 'others' paying for your healthcare
What do you think is 2 trillions in government budget for healthcare?
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@LucyStarfire
What do you think is 2 trillions in government budget for healthcare?
Well, that is not 'others'. that is your taxes!
They invest that in hospitals and healthcare infrastructure and anything needed.
The people paid for it.
I didn't know you liked trumpy
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@Umbrellacorp
Well, that is not 'others'. that is your taxes!
Who do you think pays taxes?
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@LucyStarfire
People pay the taxes. And they use the healthcare they have paid for themselves and not paid for by the 'others'
Here is what you said: "Its time for people to pay for their own healthcare instead of expecting from others to pay for them."
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@Umbrellacorp
People pay the taxes. And they use the healthcare they have paid for themselves and not paid for by the 'others'
So you think a person pays money to government, so that government could pay to insurance company, so that insurance company pays for that same person's healthcare?
I have read many dumb claims on internet, but thats probably one of the dumbest.
So you think a person pays money to government, so that government could pay to insurance company, so that insurance company pays for that same person's healthcare?
I literally never said this.
There is no way you are past high school btw.
I said everyone pays their health insurance contributions.
The ones that do not, pay pay for healthcare out of their pocket. 'Others' do not pay for them.
Salute!
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@LucyStarfire
Its time for people to pay for their own healthcare instead of expecting from others to pay for them.
The reason so many people either don't have health insurance or rely on government subsidized health insurance is because unlike almost every other developed nation on earth, healthcare is prohibitively expensive here in the US. That is something that an political party for the "forgotten man" would take into account and advocate for.
But what did they do instead? Pass legislation that will kick millions of them off leaving them with no way to pay for their healthcare.
You can agree or disagree with that policy position. What you can't do is pretend the party responsible is the party are for the little guy while the party opposing all of this is the party for the elites.
And not for nothing, I think your post epitomizes why the republican party is not the party for the working class. In any legislative disagreement the right wing view becomes clear - it maintains an almost unshakable level adherence to the idea that financial success is the true measurement of not only one's contribution to society, but how much one deserves to have within this society. So if someone can't afford their own healthcare, they're a bum who needs to stop mooching off of everyone else.
On the left we take into account that capitalism promotes a deeply disproportionate set of outcomes where hard work and even strong contributions can still result in one living in poverty. The idea of a government that ensures people are able to enjoy a dignified living isn't about giving to those who haven't earned it, it's about making sure those who have are able to enjoy what they've earned.
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@Umbrellacorp
I literally never said this
You do know that government collects taxes to pay for healthcare?
You do know that government collects taxes to pay for healthcare?
Yes they collect taxes but you still have to pay everytime you use it in USA.
Enough rage for me today.
Good job from you tho!
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@Double_R
But what did they do instead? Pass legislation that will kick millions of them off leaving them with no way to pay for their healthcare
You guys should match your stories. You are telling me that people cant pay for their own healthcare, and this other guy is telling me that they do pay for their own healthcare. So figure out which one of you is wrong.
Healthcare in the People's Republic of China is primarily provided by state-owned hospitals. Medical insurance is primarily administered by local governments. As of 2020, about 95% of the population has at least basic health insurance coverage.
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@Umbrellacorp
Yes they collect taxes but you still have to pay everytime you use it in USA
If person can pay for his own healthcare, then he doesnt need government to pay it for him.
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@LucyStarfire
If person can pay for his own healthcare, then he doesnt need government to pay it for him.
I can't tell if you are being serious anymore.
How old are you if you don't mind me asking?
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@Umbrellacorp
I can't tell if you are being serious anymore
It was your claim. So go ahead and explain why you need government to pay for your healthcare.
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@LucyStarfire
It was your claim. So go ahead and explain why you need government to pay for your healthcare.
No it's enough for today.
You win sweetie okay?
If you need schooling hit me up tomorrow.
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@Umbrellacorp
No it's enough for today
Cant answer a simple question?
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@LucyStarfire
I need government to pay for my everything baby.
I am greedy.
I want everything paid for.
Good enough????
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@Umbrellacorp
I need government to pay for my everything
At least you are honest now.
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@LucyStarfire
At least you are honest now.
Next lecture is tomorrow sweetie
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@Umbrellacorp
At least you conceded.
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@LucyStarfire
Weg machen für die dummen.
Please do not contact me outside lecture hours!
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@Umbrellacorp
I dont give free education, but you can ask AI to teach you.
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@LucyStarfire
Suuuure!