So Zedvictor got banned?

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I am grey area on death penalty but it is not binary for me based on crime type alone. There are degrees within the same crimes that make it very different who has earned execution or not.

I will leave it at that.

I oppose death penalty for like 96% of criminals probably.
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Can somebody link me to this guy's profile so I can look at his post history
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How do you know he is not?
Are you serious? If you want to label someone as pedophile, you need to have the evidence. Thats a serious label which you put on a person.
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Tbh these mods backstabbed me, I owe them nothing much.

Let them defend themselves (they won't most likely, those 2 will make Barney defend them) 
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Let them defend themselves
There is no defense for this. Not this time. Maybe bans on Shila, Fishchaser, Remy, Nazi guy, black woman and few others could have been somehow justified, but this one goes beyond mere ban. Its a label.
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So he seems like a smart user but occasionally is very annoying with the poems. Likely mentally ill but ultimately good for the site. He also seems to have nuance takes from what I can see. 
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You posted 1/3rd of the poem at most.

Without the other parts it is less blatant what he said.
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Without the other parts it is less blatant what he said
Well, either post full or shut up. No one will just trust your word.
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What was his intent with the poem. What's the theory. Intent is really what matters here
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I do not lie about things like this ever. In my history here you can find barely any example.
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I do not lie about things like this ever
Listen buddy, you obviously have some intent to ban 70% of user base on this site until there is nothing left here but pussies who are afraid to say anything to risk offending you. I would never trust your judgment.
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What was his intent with the poem. What's the theory. Intent is really what matters here
A joke poem about man seducing girls by letting them eat fruit from his garden, at worst. To label a guy as pedophile forever over that is insane.

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Direct your supposedly righteous anger at the mods that did the ban. I have 0 reason to be singled out here.
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I’ll ask Zedvictor for his side of the story when he gets back
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According to the ban details, Victor was banned from posting pedophilia content. I thought he put a link to an image of something horrible related to pedophilia like a pedophile server, but from what I'm reading here he just wrote a poem.

A fkn poem, really? Maybe he was misinterpreted and said something metaphorical which is very common in poems, with no intention to offend.
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I thought he put a link to an image of something horrible related to pedophilia
And anyone else who reads that log in future without knowing whole story will think that.
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If the above post is accurately reflective of what he said than I assume he is innocent of being a pedophile or even writing a pedophile poem or whatever conspiracy is going on here. 
I think Zed was just trying to write a witty story about plums in all honesty, and it unfortunately contained a rather inconvenient misspelling of a certain word 
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"zedvictor4 has been banned for 3 days for posting explicit content that strongly implied pedophilia content"

This makes it sound like he posted links to child porn, not some joke poem.
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@AdaptableRatman
You posted 1/3rd of the poem at most.

Without the other parts it is less blatant what he said.
I read the whole poem when it was posted earlier today, and the part that was saved by @LucyStar was the most potentially incriminating segment imo. Though of course, it’s potential to be incriminating of pedophilia precisely is not so 
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"zedvictor4 has been banned for 3 days for posting explicit content that strongly implied pedophilia content"

This makes it sound like he posted links to child porn, not some joke poem.
Cum on guys, I'm sure the moderators would never make a mistake.
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He wrote a pedophilic incestuous poem.

I give him 0 sympathy. He has blasphemed or severely disrespected a faith violating Mary and Joseph many times verbally and he has made lecherous advances to at least 2 female members here that I can think of though one was Lashwnda.

Maybe it was only her but I remember some other one vaguely.

He talks openly about wanking and more. This must all end.

Its late for me, I dont owe you anything more than telling truth.
Adaptable is telling the truth about what zedvictor wrote, btw guys. 
Immediately after being called out by Adaptaple, zedvictor edited his post to make Adaptable look insane or like he was lying. 

That said, it’s completely possible that zedvictor was just posting for shock value.
No one’s accusing him of anything horrific, people are just upset he would write something fucked up. 
However, it’s just a 3 day ban.

Not siding with Adaptable here, just pointing out an observation I witnessed
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Immediately after being called out by Adaptaple, zedvictor edited his post to make Adaptable look insane or like he was lying.
Ok that makes more sense. I assume the original poem was more graphic than just misspelling "come"? I get why mods might have deleted the evidence, but this keeps causing a lack of transparency. At least having the bannable content viewable from the ban log for 24 hours would explain the reasoning better.
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They need someone to write out their ban prompts because while the reasons aren’t wrong per se, they’re vague and leave room for misinterpretation. 
It’s a lack of clarity and transparency. 

Zedvictor wrote a shock value poem which was an obvious double entendre for pedophilia. 
He didn’t link to anything illegal, he made a super dark joke about subject matter which should be taken seriously
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Adaptable is telling the truth about what zedvictor wrote, btw guys. 
Immediately after being called out by Adaptaple, zedvictor edited his post to make Adaptable look insane or like he was lying. 
Is what's been posted here the edited or unedited version of the poem?
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Adaptable is telling the truth about what zedvictor wrote
He didnt even say what zedvictor wrote.
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Is what's been posted here the edited or unedited version of the poem?
If  it was edited than it wouldn't have been deleted. Think of the justification of the deletion? You would justify it by claiming we are too weak or fragile to handle what was  there so it wouldn't have been deleted if that was the issue
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1. They delete all the evidence
2. Then they ban a person and label him pedophile forever because of "evidence they had"
3. When asked for evidence, they give none

So we are just supposed to trust them that they had evidence? Is this how trials usually work? Mods have stayed silent on this, and this isnt the first time they do this.

I understand that most people always believe authority over evidence, which is why we have this situation in the first place.
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This video explains psychological experiments which military banned from public because the method showed that people will almost always blindly obey anyone who by behavior and movements looks like alpha male from nature. When asked why they obeyed, they couldnt explain.
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I am aware. I use it in sales. I also am aware of studies on police with this alpha behavior name command presence vs those without it. The ones with command presence are less likely to need to engage with force they are also less likely to be shot