So Zedvictor got banned?

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The main weapon is silence, eye contact, mirroring body position, and then calm slow command.

But the main hack which works on its own is eye contact and slow blinking. Slow blinking is in nature a common characteristic of alpha male lions.

Basically just doing body movements alpha lion does makes human brain think you are alpha.
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Is what's been posted here the edited or unedited version of the poem?
If  it was edited than it wouldn't have been deleted. Think of the justification of the deletion? You would justify it by claiming we are too weak or fragile to handle what was  there so it wouldn't have been deleted if that was the issue
> zed posts really over the line poem
> ratman reacts
> zed edits poem to make rat look hysterical, but edited version is still bad enough to get banned
> mods delete edited-but-still-bad-enough-to-get-banned version

^ Asking if this is how it went down
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The edited version was acceptable, but he edited it too late. Either it was screenshotted, or the mods saw the original and took action. 
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Ah I see.
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The edited version was acceptable, but he edited it too late. Either it was screenshotted, or the mods saw the original and took action. 
Or he just edited things to avoid situations where someone misreads the poem and cries for Zedvictor to be banned… since you know, that was already happening.

Once again I’ll ask Zedvictor for his side of the story but my intuition says that’s what happened.
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Did your intuition forget to @ the 2 mods that actually decided it?

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Did your intuition forget to @ the 2 mods that actually decided it?
The mods arent going to respond to this. And its probably their best gameplay, to not respond, or to respond through Lancelot maybe. I could talk to Whiteflame in private, but I already bothered him too much with site's issues probably.
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Sure I'll ping them. You should know I'm not afraid to ping people when I say something that might offend them.
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The edited version was acceptable, but he edited it too late. Either it was screenshotted, or the mods saw the original and took action.
Raises an interesting question. If a post crosses the line, but the poster deletes it as soon as someone complains, are they still punished? Based on this, it looks like the answer is yes, but it does seem like a case where the mods could be a bit more lenient. The situation had already taken care of itself. Message here seems to be "never delete content you post that crosses the line, because you will be punished regardless."
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Do you have an intuition that says you don't need to be easily offended over everything? An intuition that says you shouldn't jump to worst conclusions and start clutching pearls over everything that might be offensive? One that tells you not to be insanely puritanical in general?
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Gaslighting.
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Projecting.
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Three days is just a slap on the wrist.
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Where did I gaslight you to project it
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You're an infamous gaslighter and odds are good you gaslit people into thinking Zed was writing some pedo poem, because you thought that's what it was.
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Three days is just a slap on the wrist
I am not asking to remove ban.

All I am asking here is to change moderation log description to something like "banned over making very inappropriate and very offensive jokes about disturbing topics".

Thats all I am asking.

Remove the "pedophile" label, cuz the guy is not.
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Three days is just a slap on the wrist.
Maybe, but what would the sentence have been otherwise? Is the leniency due to the offense or the fact that zedvictor deleted the post on his own? A ban of a few days can also be a pretty big deal on a site where debate rounds have strict deadlines. Haven't really seen this play out, but a mod could ban their opponent to force them to forfeit a round.
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He made an explicit poem that involved a grandmother grooming her young granddaughter to suck on her 'plums'. This then became her grandmother having a man who wasnt her grandfather that she regularly has sex with, named woodman who has plums, having some form of oral sex with both at once, again with 'plums' referred to.

I am fed up of being attacked harassed and gaslit/abused over a legitimate report. I did 0 wrong. Nothing. I don't lie about such things. I am neither the mod nor the rulebreaker. Get lost.

You have read barely 1/3rd of the poem. Go take your anger out on someone that backstabbed me as a 'bad mod' and yet has acted on my reports consistently since then; David, Whiteflame or Barney.

Take your pick.
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He made an explicit poem that i volved a grandmother grooming her young granddaughter to suck on her 'plums'. This then became her grandmother having a man who wasnt her grandfather that she regularly has sex with, named woodman who has plums, having sone form of oral sex with both at once, again with 'plums' referred to.
I believe this when the mods show me a screenshot.

And you're not a liar, not in the traditional sense. You're just delusional.

And if you think this counts as harassment, your bar is too low to be on the internet
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aaaaaaaand he blocked me.

You know what? If that helps him feel better, good.
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Go defame someone else. I am busy spreading truth.

If I were still mod and they knew how to run things properly, you'd be kept in line and not dare disrespect other users how you do to me.
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I haven't blamed you for anything is the mods want to see your nonsense reports than they can. They are free to ignore them and their decisions are their responsibility 
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If you're gonna block me, don't bother tagging me. It should not be one way.
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Then shut up about me permanently or block me.
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If zed's side of the story comes out and it's exactly as I thought, I'm going right for the mods' throats.

Even so, the idea that a shock value poem is worth banning is absurd.
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"I'm gonna block him so he can't respond to me, but I'll still respond to him!"

Fine. Blocked. Pussy.

Go ahead and have the last word. I won't respond.
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I don’t have a screenshot to show you, as I didn’t remove the offending post.

All I can say is that RM’s statement is accurate to what I recollect of the post.
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I don't buy that for one second. I think what happened is a misinterpretation. But even so, I don't care about shock value humor. And of course the post was removed because the mods would rather powertrip and hide everything.
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Edited version of the post is still visible, which means it wasn't removed, just edited by zedvictor.