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@Lunatic
You skum or nah?
Terraria Mafia #1 - DP2
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I led a lynch on the only scum in the graveyard and half the player list is accusing me of a bus job lol. Please don’t join that crowd of lunatics. I’m the real slim shady lunatic, and I’m town.
I'm going to give Resurget's posts a closer read, but he should be full claiming at this point.
Vote Count
REF (6/7) - Cerulean, Lunatic, Wylted, Ultra, Disc
Ultra (1/7) - Banana
Lunatic (1/7) - REF
Cerulean (1/7) - Mikal/Castin
Not Voting (4) Pie, Casey, Joebob, Whiteflame
Everyone keeps calling him REF so I’ll roll with that.
20.5 hours remain.
Terraria has many kinds of wings to choose from.
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@whiteflame
Yo lunatic says he's town. You're the only one I trust tho, he town or nah?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Yo lunatic says he's town. You're the only one I trust tho, he town or nah?
I think he is. Led the lynch on Vader early and persisted in it even when it seemed to be falling apart. If he did that as Vader's partner, then he basically forced the lynch by keeping up pressure that consistently. Don't love his claim or his backtracking on his previous claim, but if this was bussing, it was far more extensive than I've seen before from Luna.
Ok I only read the first 4 words of that last post but it's good enough for me. Tag me in Discord when we lunch TEF. Til then peace out.
REF I mean
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@ILikePie5
I visited Luna because they were most confidently town
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@Ultracrepidarian
I visited Luna because they were most confidently town
Feel like you could argue mikal is more town, since he is widely town confirmed
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@ResurgetExFavilla
Alright, I've read back through Ref's posts in some detail.
I'm a bit mixed on what initially led him to townread Vader. His post #286 seeing Vader's responses initially as kind of townie make sense from a certain perspective, even if I'd call it more NAI at that time. When he says he's leaning scum too in #400, that doesn't seem off-base for him, considering that Mikal was saying he couldn't have received certain information from Mharman, even after mentioning the two words vs. one issue a few posts earlier. I can't give him much credit for that view, though, since it was discussed for several pages before this one. All this comes off as reasonable, even the VTL on me asking for more insight into other players. I view his turn away from Vader as the likely lynch to come mainly from the revelation that Mikal's information was imperfect, given that people could have gotten different responses from Mharman. Feels like he just returns to his previous view.
The weaker portion of his argument comes later when he's talking about the Vanilla claim, specifically, where he really hones in on scum having three claims and says that Vader had no incentive to claim Vanilla as a result. That bothered me at the time and, though I kind of buy how he came down to three claims if he's town, it still bothers me a bit. To give him a bit of credit, he dropped this point after realizing he'd made a mistake, but also argued at one point that the wagon on Vader had evaporated (it was diminished, but not gone), and set Vader on his sus list later with little reasoning. This could be authentic, but these turns rub me the wrong way.
So it's mainly a matter of how much I'm weighing these things against him. The first paragraph worth of posts doesn't really come off as avidly defending Vader in a way I wouldn't expect of scum, especially since other people were making similar points (beyond, perhaps, the "this looks honest" argument), so that doesn't really affect how I see him. The second paragraph isn't a set of strong reasons to scumread him, but there's a bit of a pattern there - of pushing back on the lynch with reasoning that didn't hold up, then pushing back because some people had fallen off of it, then joining the chorus when people started rejoining the lynch - that feels off. I won't vote yet because he's already at L-1, but those are my thoughts.
Kinda tilting that no one is listening about this campfire thing. It’s kinda damning and I’m about to crash out
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@Mikal
Kinda tilting that no one is listening about this campfire thing. It’s kinda damning and I’m about to crash out
How so
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@Mikal
What that campfires are found underground? Already know that’s bs because looks are found underground too per my pm.
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@Mikal
Sure campfire can slow poison but it does not remove it and it also is not the main purpose.
Didn’t he say his justification was about mitigation not a cure all? Idk man this isn’t a theme I’m all too familiar with but I still would rather focus behavior over claim stuff. Claim stuff can be a factor but not a primary reason imo
The case on ref is literally behavior. Just saying. We don’t even have the man’s claim yet.
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@Lunatic
No his role removes poison
Campfires do not do that, they give health regen. The role does not make sense with his character
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@JoeBob
Above
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@Mikal
Has he made a counter argument to it, or did I miss that
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@JoeBob
He did. It’s a bad argument.
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@JoeBob
ok so what I’m getting at here is that, correct me if I’m wrong, but after finally finding out what cerulean role does, it mentions that usually it’s announced at the beginning of each day. So unless that thing is like an even-night use only, then he’s lying about it
Do you have any reads?
Please post how you read every player in the game
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@Cerulean
I can't be properly online for a little bit, but I also can't let this particular misinformation go unchecked. This is the mistake I made internally on Day 1 when I said that my justification was bad- I didn't understand how health regeneration mechanics worked.Ladies, gentlemen, creatures of other persuasions, open your Terraria Wikis to the Health regeneration page.It's complicated, and I won't go through all the details, but the gist is this: There is a value called the Regeneration Rate. When you have Poison, it brings that value to -4, meaning you're losing health per second. However, a Campfire adds 1 to that value, changing it to -3.So, in other words, the presence of the Campfire mitigates the effects of the Poison, which is exactly what I already said about my justification.
What word is used in your PM?
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@Mikal
More than that a campfire isn’t primarily used for poison. It’s for regen in general so why would he make an entire role around that. It’s the same issue I had with the short sword when I was pushing supa and changed my mind. Sure copper is a thing but it has way more variations than that. It’s very similar. Sure campfire can slow poison but it does not remove it and it also is not the main purpose.If anything your claim would make more sense as an antidote or something which has the purpose of removing the effect.I literally do not buy this at allPlease read into this.
It depends on the exact word in the PM that Mharman used.
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@Lunatic
In your opinion, but it was also combined with the fact that I counter claimed him.
Yet Savant did the same thing. Haven’t seen you say anything about him
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@Ultracrepidarian
I visited Luna because they were most confidently town
What makes you say that?
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@Mikal
Kinda tilting that no one is listening about this campfire thing. It’s kinda damning and I’m about to crash out
Let me do more research
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@ResurgetExFavilla
You need to full claim as you are L-1
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@ILikePie5
Do you have any reads?
I posted my reads yesterday. Nothing much changed except for the fact that ceru is less towny to be after what lunatic just said.
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@Cerulean
It's complicated, and I won't go through all the details, but the gist is this: There is a value called the Regeneration Rate. When you have Poison, it brings that value to -4, meaning you're losing health per second. However, a Campfire adds 1 to that value, changing it to -3.
After rereading this after what lunatic brought up, this doesn’t make much sense.
Based off what I learned from Google about your role, the campfire doesn’t nullify the poison effect, like the healer does to the poison in mafia.
As of right now I’m more comfortable voting cer instead of ref, but I’ll wait until and/or
1 ref claims like pie wants him to
Or
2 ceru gets back online