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@iamanabanana
That was def not pressure it’s Poe. That basically just hard claimed your role lol.
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@Casey_Risk
I also think town
Ok I’m fully caught up now
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@JoeBob
Ok I’m fully caught up now
Whats your thoughts?
Leaving for my camping trip. Will try to post later tonight or late tomorrow night if I can get signal.
Banana post 80
He happened to be right about vader but I think it was more luck than actual logic.
I told you guys about this before. This is a scum mental trait where it's tempting to think the town lucked into everything. I wasn't confident in the lynch myself but notice how I just stated that I was wrong. I don't need that cope because I am town.
Anna shouldn't be pussy about Vader being lynched if she's town just lynch
Pissy not pussy
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@ResurgetExFavilla
There was a strengthener, an obligate visitor off the top of my head, and I think one other that's slipping my mind as I'm not home right now. But a lot of them were roles that are common scum fakeclaims.
I don't think a strengthener is a scummy claim. Its towns only recourse against a roleblocker, thats pretty powerful.
I’ve been slammed much of the day and don’t have the time to catch up fully, though I did see Banana’s claim. For now:
Unvote
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@Casey_Risk
Yeah, I was wrong about Vader. It happens. Everyone is wrong sometimes. But I wasn't the one who put momentum behind the WF wagon. Mikal was the one who was pushing WF hard. You can look back at my progression during DP1. I outright said that I didn't really have any better alternative lynches. It was Mikal that offered WF as an alternative. What would be the point of me trying to defend Vader as scum without really trying to move the lynch in a different direction? All that would do is make me look sus when Vader inevitably flipped scum.
This really feels like you are shifting the blame from your own actions onto mikal lol. But I think you are town here so I'll let it go.
I'm going to reiterate what I said in the Endgame thread of the previous game.
For me, the hard pushing from you [Banana] was more reminiscent of your scum games than your town games, but now, I think that might just be because you were generally more active and involved in your scum games. That might be the real scumtell.
I stand by this statement. It's weird, but I think that Banana's true scumtell is sort of the inverse of what you'd expect from most players - she's actually more active as scum than as town. If you go back and look at both of her scum games so far (Bo Burnham and Game Shows, coincidentally both Luna games) and compare them to her town games, you can tell that Banana tends to get much more invested in this game when she's scum than when she's town.
That's relevant here because her play so far strikes me as being profoundly lazy. She was low activity for all of DP1, missed a majority of posts, and didn't even really try to get caught up. Is this lazy? Sure. Anti-town, even? Arguably so. Do I think she's scum for it? No. Rather, her voting for WF is entirely consistent with her behavior this game, as she had considered Mikal and I townreads, and we were both on WF's wagon. It's not surprising to me that she'd hop on as well. #80 and #82 also feel very genuine to me, personally. So yeah, I think she's probably town in this game.
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@Mikal
I think ceru is more important but my read on supa was off at the end. Punching myself for not following through initially
Supa felt so off to me the whole game. Like he was never really pushing any reads, unless you count a lazy omgus shade throw at me and pie who were voting him, town vader should have been on offense as well. It was really the admittance to hiding a mistake from town that sold it for me though.
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@Mikal
To clarify just because Vader slipped doesn’t clear wf. Wf can still be scum but if that wasn’t a mid given fake claim for super I think ceru is prob the one that made it.
Oh come on. With how much resistance that vader lynch got at the end, I think that makes whiteflame look really good. If scum were losing someone no matter what, I wouldn't have had to fight as hard as I did for the last 100 pages to get supa lynched. I feel like that lynch almost didn't happen. Whiteflame is probably my second strongest town read under you at this point, and I only town read you because you are confirmed.
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@Cerulean
I was planning to come into today hard claiming this anyway, so I don't mind doing it now.I am Campfire, Poison Healer. I don't believe my role only exists to counter Iron, so scum must have a Poisoner.The fact that nobody is poisoned suggests to me that the person who tried to do it was blocked or otherwise unsuccessful.
Not noticing that irontoaster was a poisoner seems like a genuine townslip.
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@Lunatic
This really feels like you are shifting the blame from your own actions onto mikal lol. But I think you are town here so I'll let it go.
I'm not trying to shift the blame, I'm just saying that Pie is overstating my role in the formation of the WF wagon. Both Mikal and Banana were pushing him harder than I was. I will admit, however, that in retrospect, Vader was the better wagon.
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@Lunatic
Not noticing that irontoaster was a poisoner seems like a genuine townslip.
Wdym not noticing?
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@Mikal
Luna tunneled him but I think lunas tunnel could almost be bus type weird where as pie seemed to actually stick with the same case I had which was the weird inconsistency with his statements.
Bruh.
Anyways I had more I had added to supa by the time he was lynched than the wiki argument that everyone seemed to disagree with me on. Regardless, I got my scum lynched against all odds so even if you don't think I am town, I feel like I pulled my weight this game. That said, get your head out of your @rse and help me win this thing, your reads have been so bad.
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@Casey_Risk
Not noticing that irontoaster was a poisoner seems like a genuine townslip.Wdym not noticing?
Nvm I misread what he said when he said "I don't think my role exists to counter iron". He meant Iron toaster. I thought Iron was some theme related terraria thing when I read that initially.
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@WyIted
I told you guys about this before. This is a scum mental trait where it's tempting to think the town lucked into everything. I wasn't confident in the lynch myself but notice how I just stated that I was wrong. I don't need that cope because I am town.Anna shouldn't be pussy about Vader being lynched if she's town just lynch
I don't think this is a scumtell coming from Banana specifically. It's consistent with her personality. She tends to be very strongly opinionated and isn't swayed easily.
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@Mikal
Something about this post bothers me. It’s like my logical thought was if an anti poison role does exist it was to counter TVs role. It sure I believe thatBut you went a step further and say the justification for his claim is because you think mafia or someone likely had another poison ability.It’s almost like knowledge that should not be there. I did not even consider a second poison role exists which is why I didn’t buy the claim
Kind of agree with the TMI here btw
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@iamanabanana
I stand by my decision to vote whiteflame last day phase. I had no way of knowing vader was scum, and like I told luna, the reason for voting whiteflame wasn't deep or out of some principal. I townread casey and mikal and both of them were on the whiteflame wagon, plus the day phase was ending and I knew I wouldn't be around at the end of the day phase to vote, so out of all the options available vaders wagon seemed scummier. Lunatic pushing it so hard almost made it seem like it was going to be a guaranteed town lynch that he could just make an excuse for the next day phase and say something like "well I thought he was scummy blah blah" and I didn't feel good about it. He happened to be right about vader but I think it was more luck than actual logic.
You stand by your decision to vote someone who is now likely town, based on role alone, with no behavioral analysis in favor of someone we now know is scum? Interesting. Not helping your case much.
My town pool is:
Pie, savant, mikal, Casey, wylted, and whiteflame.
After catching up, I think my POE is something like this:
Ultra, Banana, Ref, Cerulean, and Joebob (My town read on him is dwindling based on recent lack of effort).
The inactives probably need to claim since they will be on the back of my mind as lurkers as long as they aren't posting or contributing. Joebob is at least kind of around, so I'll join banana in pressuring ultra
VTL ultra. And yes he also had a horrible vote last day phase.
At the time of my vote there were about three hours left, and I was about to be absent for an extended period of time
Since I was a little overwhelmed by the dp and didn't fully know what was going on I didn't want to hammer Vader, but I also didn't want to completely ghost town, so I voted WF.
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@Ultracrepidarian
At the time of my vote there were about three hours left, and I was about to be absent for an extended period of timeSince I was a little overwhelmed by the dp and didn't fully know what was going on I didn't want to hammer Vader, but I also didn't want to completely ghost town, so I voted WF.
I need a claim or something to get you out of POE then, because oddball posts once in a blue moon and scummy votes like that aren't enough for me to read you on. And you will just dis-appear again for 40 hours and probably vote last minute again. I am not down with that. If you aren't going to contribute, at least explain to me why you aren't scum or give me a claim related reason not to lynch you.
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@Lunatic
All I'll say for now is that I'm the one that visited you last night
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@Casey_Risk
I don't think this is a scumtell coming from Banana specifically. It's consistent with her personality. She tends to be very strongly opinionated and isn't swayed easily.
Seeing her in live play makes me realize how sharp she is also. So the statement feels off.
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@Ultracrepidarian
All I'll say for now is that I'm the one that visited you last night
I don’t know what that means but okay
Interesting statement from Ultra. Definitely hints at a specific kind of role, though it's odd that Luna doesn't back that up.
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@iamanabanana
Well for starters, I think that the character claim was not needed to be said, especially since it seems like your role is important based off of the charcacter.
Ceru full claim of the campfire seems to check out. But that can be said for most of them. I am still wondering what his role does in the fist place
But most of this seems to be already awkknowlledge knowledge so it isn’t worth much.
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@ResurgetExFavilla
@Mikal
Ceru, can you use your role on someone that isn't poisoned? Could that result in any sort of mod confirmation of your role?
I doubt it, but I'll check.
Ceru just feels wrong. That claim+ Supas on point reason for why a short sword would be vanilla.By assumption is they got short sword as a character claim but not a role and ceru worked in why. The verbiage supa gave almost matches exactly to why ceru said it made sense.
I'll accept that my role is hard to believe when there are no poisons. And I'll accept that my lukewarmness on the Vader chop puts me in POE (which is part of why I claimed in the first place).
However.
I'm not going to accept as valid reasoning that something which is explicitly described in the wiki and would be known by anyone who has ever played the game is something that incriminates me specifically.
- The uselessness of the Copper Shortsword, even at the beginning of the game which it is supposedly suited for, has earned it "memetic" status within the Terraria community. For instance, on videos of people completing challenges in Terraria such as unusual boss fights or speedruns, comments saying "Now do it with a copper shortsword!" are not a rare sight, to make the seemingly impossible challenge even more ridiculous, although completely possible in some cases. (Here)