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@disgusted
And zero politicians support 3 key Nordic policies. Too bad so sad.
Socialism: The New American Dream
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@Greyparrot
Which is good for you since you abhor socialism.
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@Alec
Or Canada, or Israel, or Germany.36% of the population ought to take a vacation to Venezuela to see what happens when your country goes socialist.
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@3RU7AL
Or Canada, or Israel, or Germany.
All of these places have lower GDP per capitas then the US.
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@Alec
All of these places have lower GDP per capitas then the US.
Is that really your primary measure of "success"?
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@3RU7AL
Is that really your primary measure of "success"?
It's how I measure how wealthy the average person within a society is.
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@Alec
Is that really your primary measure of "success"?It's how I measure how wealthy the average person within a society is.
Let's check the percentage of the population that is living below the poverty line.
Taiwan 1.5%
China 3.3%
Austria 4%
Switzerland 6.6%
Ireland 8.2%
Canada 9.4%
Russia 13.3%
France 14%
UK 15%
Sweden 15%
USA 15.1%
Japan 16.1%
Germany 16.7%
Israel 22%
Italy 29.9%
Let's check the World Happiness Report.
1. Finland
2. Norway
3. Denmark
4. Iceland
5. Switzerland
6. Netherlands
7. Canada
8. New Zealand
9. Sweden
10. Australia
11. Israel
12. Austria
13. Costa Rica
14. Ireland
15. Germany
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@3RU7AL
Let's check the percentage of the population that is living below the poverty line.
What is the poverty line?
You basically cite the world happiness report, however, socialism makes a nation well off in the short term, but in the long term, it makes your country comparably ranked to a country like Russia, which is #59 on your list. It acts like a drug. This is because money leaves the country and people often lose their incentive to work in a relatively socialist economy, where things are given to them and work is optional. Many people get addicted to government welfare.
Also, the happiness report easily could be due to other factors. Maybe Canadians are inherently more happy then Americans. A better way to compare the situation is over a 30 year period, compare the before and after of the implementation of socialism.
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@3RU7AL
Let's check the percentage of the population that is living below the poverty line.
Bru7al why do you always counter with rational, logical common sense? Your obsessed or possessed! ;--)
Free market is one way of socializing, however, when the free market lacks spiritiulity and is taken to immoral { uncivilized } extremes, free market extremist chooses the small percentage of right-to-life haves{ * $ * }, over the larger percentage of have-nots { * ! * }.
Does the basic{ root } animalisitc darwinism replace spirituality and morals with these right-to-lifers?
I think it does.
...'It is harder for a rich person to let go of any percentage of their wealth, than it is for a camel to go through the eye of a needle'....{ Middle Eastern quote }
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@mustardness
Free market is one way of socializing, however, when the free market lacks spiritiulity and is taken to immoral { uncivilized } extremes, free market extremist chooses the small percentage of right-to-life haves{ * $ * }, over the larger percentage of have-nots { * ! * }.
You must be a big fan of Theocracies.
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@Alec
America has the fattest, wealthiest poor on the entire planet. The standard of living for a poor American is astronomical compared to the poor anywhere else on the globe. The "poor" in America live like kings compared to the poor anywhere in Africa.
It's a big reason why people jump the border wall.
"the typical person in the bottom 5 percent of the American income distribution is still richer than 68 percent of the world’s inhabitants."
"America’s poorest are, as a group, about as rich as India’s richest."
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@Greyparrot
America has the fattest, wealthiest poor on the entire planet. The standard of living for a poor American is astronomical compared to the poor anywhere else on the globe. The "poor" in America live like kings compared to the poor anywhere in Africa.It's a big reason why people jump the border wall.
You might be under the impression that America’s poor are only poor by American standards. After all, the United States is a rich nation, and hey, practically anyone here can at least afford a decent TV.
But no. As Matt Bruenig illustrates at Demos today, low-income Americans get an exceptionally raw deal for residents of the developed world. Using data compiled by LIS, he’s ranked countries by how much income individuals have at their disposal throughout the bottom half of the economic distribution. At the 10th percentile, the U.S. ranks 13th. At the 20th percentile, it reaches 11th—moving up the rankings as it approaches the middle class. [LINK]
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@3RU7AL
Thank you for conceding the standard of living argument.
Until you can find me an American politician advocating a 40% tax on the poor like the Nords have, these "wealth" comparisons are meaningless.
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@Greyparrot
America has the fattest, wealthiest poor on the entire planet.
This statement is provably false.
The standard of living for a poor American is astronomical compared to the poor anywhere else on the globe.
This statement is also provably false.
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@3RU7AL
Until you can find me an American politician advocating a 40% tax on the poor like the Nords have, these "wealth" comparisons are meaningless.
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@Alec
What is the poverty line?
People who are unable to provide basic food, clothing and shelter for themselves.
You basically cite the world happiness report, however, socialism makes a nation well off in the short term, but in the long term, it makes your country comparably ranked to a country like Russia, which is #59 on your list.
1. Finland
2. Norway
3. Denmark
4. Iceland
5. Switzerland
6. Netherlands
7. Canada
8. New Zealand
9. Sweden
10. Australia
These countries have provided national healthcare for at least 35 years. Do you consider this "short term"?
It acts like a drug. This is because money leaves the country [please cite sources] and people often lose their incentive to work [please cite sources] in a relatively socialist economy, where things are given to them and work is optional. Many people get addicted to government welfare.
Why have the unemployment rates in these countries not skyrocketed? [LINK]
Also, the happiness report easily could be due to other factors.
This statement is a naked appeal to ignorance.
Maybe Canadians are inherently more happy then Americans.
This statement is a naked appeal to ignorance.
A better way to compare the situation is over a 30 [35?] year period, compare the before and after of the implementation of socialism.
Without data to support your claim, this statement is a naked appeal to ignorance.
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@Greyparrot
Meaningless to someone who abhors the socialism he supports. Oh dear
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@Greyparrot
do you live off disability and have capital one in your wallet, or are those just jokes?
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@n8nrgmi
No to both.
Any smart person who wishes to thrive as a lazy person masquerading as a needy person acquires zero debt.
Having untraceable investments in cryptocurrency is also wise.
Don't hate the player. Hate the game.
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@Type1
Buddy, this is your time to shine.
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@Kasmic
A little of this..and a little of that...the future like cuisine will FUSE into
............C A P A S O C I A L I S M.......all things MORPH into other forms
this is the beginning of transition to TRANSFORMATION...so obvious
But many humans are HYPNOTIZED and BRAINWASHED imbeciles
of Religious CULTS, Business and Political Parasite VAMPIRES
it all will FUSE....into a new construct...as long as the masses of ASSES
decide they DO NOT WANT TO BE ASS wiping slaves to the few that
control the planet....
WAKE UP HUMAN IMBECILES and take charge of your existence
without needing FEAR INTIMIDATION VIOLENCE ......morons