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What religion are you?  Your profile says other.
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Having a north Korean Mum and a Nk Dad plays more into it. 

Like a Christian women and Christian man make baby Christians ,  this i have witnessed

I have never witnessed a Muslim women and a Muslim man having a Christian child. 

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Ah, but how can you tell the religion of a baby?   To me they all look like a bit like Buddha.
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Show me karma, reincarnation and soul and a discussion my ensue.
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@secularmerlin
Read the post, I refuted her claim.
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I chose my position, prove me wrong as not me.
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Ah, but how can you tell the religion of a baby?   To me they all look like a bit like Buddha.
A new born is very wrinkly as is a very old person with wrinkles.

Ive seen pictures of both next to each other and it is amazing the similarlities between beginning and ending state//phase of biologics life.

Think about it. If were in the pool long enough we come out with wrinkled skin same goes for baby in womb filled with fluid.

The buddha was born with wrinkles and will die with wrinkles provided they live long enough.

However,' black dont crack'....but eventually they do also.
..."All signs point to true. "It's due to the amount of collagen and melanin in the skin," says skin specialist and aesthetician Bianca Estelle. Melanin is a sticky pigment produced by your skin that works like sunscreen, protecting the skin from UV rays."....

I agree with disgusted that 99% of time we believe in the god we are indocrinated with from birth if not before. Since music{ sound waves }, diet{ingested } and fragrance{ ingested } may also be sigificant part of a familys religon that has an effect on the fetus.







 

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@disgusted
Cause and effect are not in question. It is this extra unnecessary piece called choice that remainbs unproven. Can you demonstrate a choice that is not observably the product of cause and effect? To be clear i do not mean asserting that some choice is not the product of cause and effect but to demonstrate it.
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I would fuck a submissive north korean raw with my dominance and whisper to her "I'm your kim-jong now, whore!" if she tells on me, I will say she begged me to say it and take her down with me.
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@secularmerlin
Cause and effect are not in question. It is this extra unnecessary piece called choice that remainbs unproven. Can you demonstrate a choice that is not observably the product of cause and effect? To be clear i do not mean asserting that some choice is not the product of cause and effect but to demonstrate it.
I thinky you'dfind it very hard to demonstrate that a choice is the effect of physical causes only - we don't understand brains well enough to do prove physicalism directly - it must remain a very plausible hypothesis for awhile yet.

Let's be clear - free will is a 'cause' with an 'effect', the effect being the making of a choice.  The issue is that free will is supposed to be an 'immaterial cause'; ie it hs no physical manifestation; it is purely 'mind stuff' of the order as consciousness. 

Or something.
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@keithprosser
I thinky you'dfind it very hard to demonstrate that a choice is the effect of physical causes only
It doesn't matter. We know that the phenomenon we refer to as choice is directed at least in part by purely physical cause and effect. That means that any claim that more is at work requires the shouldering of the burden of proof.

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@Alec
What religion are you?  Your profile says other.

At this point in my life I examine all forms of spirituality, some more than others, putting the puzzle pieces together so to speak. They call a person that recognizes or respects all religions an Omnist.  The Gospels of Jesus were the first thing I connected with spiritually as a young kid, and so I observed and applied the teachings of Jesus for quite awhile and still do. My own interest in the paranormal or the reality of the afterlife is what influenced me to look much deeper and be open to other sources to learn more things. I realized the Creator is much more dynamic than any one religious group could ever package.

While I don't view Jesus as the average religious authority anyways nor his teachings resembling anything organized religion offers, I don't buy into religious control and special religious clubs as well I don't particularly like dividing myself from other believers even if they're different. So I observe spirituality as a whole and learn from it that way because I know creation is much more vast than people realize, the afterlife even more so. Basically I choose not to label myself, rather I just share what I've learned and what I believe to be true which includes information and knowledge from several sources. 
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What does this have to do with the god you worship in NK?
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Whether or not beliefs are a choice is a connected subject.

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Mopac post #9 Gives a Avenue into defeating supream ultimate reality god.
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The middle east ALLAH God psychopaths can't wait to infest North Korea and start chopping off heads of all the infidels
who do not immediately convert and accept "ALLAH as GOD of GODS and KIM must also fall on the floor and praise "ALLAH"

As the ISLAM Parasite Vampires begin assimilation of NK and KIM  the JESUS parasite Vampires will intervene and create
a REVOLUTION against the "ALLAH" God from HELL VAMPIRES....now with a CIVIL WAR inevitable..the sellers of
WAR MACHINES will step up to supply each side to ensure maximum decimation of the people and their culture so 
that a new Government PUPPET BOZO can be planted along with a new banking system to OPPRESS the NK people
that remain after the devastation....

this is the same model of disrupt use to create the massive global depression of the 1930's leading to WW2 = very profitable !

KIM is no fool...he knows how America Russia Europe china want access to the last remaining untapped land area of the
region that is in the middle of all the territory....same strategy America did with the Native Americans...reduced to inept
and impoverished with their culture decimated...so they can be assimilated and OBEY the new order...of course the
Roman catholic Church will insure ISLAM is kept at bay...and all remaining NK convert to Christianity to insure that
divide and discontent remain high among the NK...= a new DICTATOR hidden behind Political and Religious Vampires

ultimately KIM will be executed or asassinated insuring the NK hypnotized sheeple OBEY the new ORDER....which will
also be based on FEAR-INTIMIDATION-VIOLENCE....all praise JESUS for saving NK from the Muslim Vampires...yet
all of NK people are now surrounded by outsider Religion-Politics-Vampires for power and control over them...
Like with KIM...the masses will be kept DUMBED DOWN and ENSLAVED by multiple fronts of OPPRESSION instead
of the delusional "i wanna be a GOD..... Kim clown dictator"  

KIM would like to open up with TRUMP...but he knows TRUMP is temporary and after TRUMP will be the classic UNDO
all that this President did routine...and KIM will be totally vulnerable .....he will wait till after TRUMP and keep playing
the NK nuclear card because once that is diffused,,,KIM has nothing to stop the outsiders from taking over and 
TRASHING HIM into exile to be forgotten...proven throughout history...KIM will keep playing the NUK and war against
SK card....China could care less if the NK and SK exterminate each other...actually that would be preferable...
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@secularmerlin
 Your beliefs can contradict each other and that's not a problem. 
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Mopac post #9 Gives a Avenue into defeating supream ultimate reality god
The word "God" with a capital "G" is different than the word "god" with a lower case "g".

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@secularmerlin
If that is your contention start a thread.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Your beliefs can contradict each other and that's not a problem. 
There is ample evidence that humans can and do hold contradictory beliefs.

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@Mopac
Right you are.  I don't know what im saying 43% of the time. 
But ummmmmm , right you are . 
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That humility right there would serve you tremendously if you were to go the route of Orthodox Christianity.

In acknowledging your error, you have been made right. That is what it means to confess your sin. Repenting is to turn away from your error.

And in this moment you have become an example of righteousness on this forum. If only others had the courage to do what you just did!




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Hey sec. The fact that we can't see our eyes move in the mirror.  (  Saccadic suppression ) I think it's called . And with what you are seeing when this occurs is ummmmmmm, 
Well it's to me disheartening. EVERYTHING IS ON THE TABLE.

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@Mopac
It does help if you are like me, probably the most uneducated person in the forum.  
But ummmm, ill get there.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
You mean you construct an image of reality instead of experiencing reality directly and you don't really trust that process? 
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@secularmerlin
The reality you experience directly is an image of reality.

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If any of you godists were born in NK you would worship Kim Jon Un as your god, really sad just how important your god is, isn't it?

It is an excellent point. Kim, a very human being, is worshipped as a god, The dynasty believes itself to be of the gods and the people believe it. 

Her majesty Queen Elizabeth II believes her ' right to rule' comes from god i.e. 'god given'. Do you see the difference between the ancient so called gods and Kim Jon un and the difference between Kim Jon Un and the British monarchy? 
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@Stephen
Pharaoh liked to make this pretense of being a god.

These gods come and go, they are born and they die. Thrre is One Eternally Existing God.

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@Mopac
Is there only one correct set of teachings about this God ?

I don't want to know who's correct.
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@Mopac
The reality you experience directly is an image of reality.
That his true your brain is not an eyeball and eyeballs don't interpret images.