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So I've watched about 6 episodes of season 1. Definitely enjoying it. I don't know how long it's been since you watched season 1, but this is where I'm at:

-- Guy had to quit because he lost his ferro rod. It fell on the beach and the tide carried it away. I was laughing so hard. I felt for him though. His entire effort was ruined by one single stupid mistake. Surviving without a fire in that environment would have been absolute misery. You'd be reduced to barely crawling by.

-- I knew the cop would be the first to tap out as soon as he got off the boat.

-- I couldn't believe the one who looks like a hipster chose to devote his early energy to trying to build a log cabin. It was such a massive waste of his body's reserves.

-- So many of them say things like "I didn't know it would be like this" or "I didn't sign up for this". They had to know what they were getting into. Or maybe they didn't and that's why they signed up.

-- "Go away, bear. Go away. This is my side. I'm bigger than you. I'm bigger than I really am. Go away. Oh shit, he's not buying it. He's coming." Lulz.


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Ha! I knew you would like it, keep going the other seasons are good too. I won't give anything away but some of the girl contestants in some of the seasons did better than the guys IMO, really good at making life more tolerable in the contest. They seem to have a knack and better intuition about what needs to be done, the experienced ones anyways and then there's the cry babies as well lol. One of my favorite contestants was a female herbalist, she did amazing even though I believe she tapped. 
The men get fixated on finding little animals to eat, and when they can't it drains on them, they seemingly get lost whereas the women forage around more, more open to eating other things besides dead meat. 
I actually have to go brush myself up on the first season but I remember the guy losing his ferro rod lol! wow that was cringe worthy watching it roll into the fire. The episodes I remember most in season 1 are the later ones, so I can't give away who lasts...
The bears.....the bears, oh that's one thing I don't know if I could get used to, having bears circling me at nights. I've never encountered a bear, but I shouldn't watch things like The Grizzly Man with Timothy Treadwell who was eaten by one. 

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Ahh I see, thanks.
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Oh sweet, there are female contestants in later seasons? I thought they'd be sticking with dudes.

In my experience men seem to crave more meat in general. Couldn't tell you why. Any number of factors could be skewing my impression. The list of food I've seen the season 1 guys score includes mushrooms, bull kelp, mussels, a slug, and fish. No mammals yet. They haven't run across any critters that would make a low-risk food source. Just wolves and bears. Our ancestors may have had the guts to hunt wolves and bears without a firearm, but we don't. I like my intestines on the inside of my body, thank you.

It would be a huge advantage to be an herbalist, provided you were educated on the local plant life. As of season 1, they seem to be picking contestants who are not native to the area.

I gotta hand it to you, I'm really likin' it and I think I'll be a steady viewer. I like how you can look up each guy's gear list online.

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Hey what's the most isolated you've ever been. #5
"psychologically or physically" #14

I can't remember 'any long periods of physical isolation, not even for a period as long as a day.

Psychologically, hm, school was a bit of a loner, had friends in earlier years recess and such, never got all 'that close, hung with them in classes and lunch.
Mostly I just read books.

Military job and the military training, bunch of new people, strangers, instructors and situation abnormal to what one is used to.
Heh, it's funny because 'physically you're 'surrounded by people.

One get's used to it over time, strangers not 'so strange, but they don't always become close friends or family.
I still missed family while I was in the military.

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What attracted you to the military. Was it Vietnam war, Korean War, Afghanistan war or Iraq?
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I wasn't doing anything with my life,
Figured it would be a decent source of money and GI Bill college as an option.
Figured if I wasn't self motivated, I would use the military 'to motivate me. Bit difficult to back 'out of the military once you're in.
I suppose I might have had other options, that could force me into movement, I though about trying to find employment on some merchant or cruise ship for example.
But figured military would be easy entry.

I was also kind of depressed around that time in my life.
People sometimes die in the military,
If I 'did happen to die, my parents would be my beneficiaries, thus gratitude could be fulfilled to a degree.

My father's father was an officer in the Air Force, flew a bomber, eventually retired.
My mother's father was in the Infantry, drafted into the Korean War , she said he never talked about his time in the military.
My eldest brother joined the Air Force (Repairing and checking planes) some years before I joined the navy, I considered joining the air force, but I didn't want to feel as though I was just 'following whatever my eldest brother did. So I joined the Navy.
Joined as Hospital Corpsman because it sounded a job for smart people. Medicine, doctors and all that.
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Reads like a military family.
President Trump says the purpose of the American military "is not to protect anyone's feelings" after announcing a new focus on "fitness, .
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'Might not be the best decision, 'depending on extent and how of implementation.
Morale can make an army strong, can encourage recruitment and retention of valuable individuals.
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How come America failed in all the wars it waged on countries like Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan and Iraq.

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DANG!!! Literally the first forum I walk into and it becomes a massive flame war that is utterly irrelevant to the main topic... hope that this isn't the trend... 
Hey what's the most isolated you've ever been. #5
"psychologically or physically" #14

Physically... i've solo camped a time or two for a few days... but usually not in true wilderness. Not much of that in my area, at least not accessible to the public. When i was unemployed for 3 months, i went a week and a half without human contact... then had to go get groceries. I became relatively socially isolated when walking away from religion and thus the church i was a minister at which was central to my social life. My social circle went from 30ish to 5, 2 of which were family and the rest I rarely talk to.

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intentional solitude (positive isolation) is good for healing by allowing deep reflection, self-awareness, and emotional processing away from external noise, but forced isolation (loneliness) is harmful and hinders healing by fostering depression, negative self-talk, and disconnection, so balancing solitude with healthy social connection is key for true recovery, note Ethos Behavioral HealthLifestyle → Sustainability Directoryand Psychology Today

Benefits of Healthy Solitude (Positive Isolation)
  • Deepens Self-Awareness: Helps you understand your triggers, needs, and values without distraction.
  • Improves Emotional Regulation: Teaches you to sit with difficult emotions and not react impulsively.
  • Fosters Creativity & Spirituality: Provides space for meditation, journaling, or connecting with your inner voice.
  • Rebuilds Confidence: Shows you that you can be your own source of strength. 

Dangers of Unhealthy Isolation (Loneliness)
  • Intensifies Depression: Can create a dark space where depression and negative self-talk flourish.
  • Worsens Trauma: Prevents you from practicing healthy connection, which is often needed for relational healing, say anniewright.com and Lux Counseling.
  • Physiological Harm: Linked to anxiety, poor health behaviors, high blood pressure, and impaired immunity, according to the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare

Finding Balance
  • Intentionality: Use alone time for recharging and practicing calming activities, not avoiding people.
  • Moderation: Take breaks for social connection, even short ones, as relationships are crucial for healing, say New Hope Ranch and Healing Pines Recovery.
  • Seek Support: Don't try to heal entirely alone; connecting with safe people or professionals is vital. 

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@Shila
Connecting with professionals has a tendency to come with a bill, which the professional will find beneficial and you will probably find not so beneficial.

But yes, I enjoy solitude.

And dislike the company of:  Organisers, people who yabber on about themselves and the achievements of their family and friends and people who yabber on about theirs and everybody else's health problems.
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You are doing well. By balancing solitude with healthy social connection is key for true recovery, note Ethos Behavioral Health, Lifestyle → Sustainability Directoryand Psychology Today.
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"True recovery" from what?

Generally means mental health issues, I suppose...Which is a subject that I will no try and glibly elaborate upon.

Nonetheless I have always been reasonably healthy in that department...It's more of an ongoing management thing  for me.
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Let us know how your self discovery is working out.
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I think that "self discovery" is the constant state of the demented.

Currently I have no trouble finding myself.
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There are two paths to self discovery. Religion and psychology.
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Religion is a path to nowhere...And psychology is a path that is rarely necessary, but often overused.

I need neither religion or psychology...Because I know so.
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Meditation is another way. But that takes time.
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Hmmmmm. 

My brother in law once managed a Buddhist retreat centre in Scotland and I used to visit regularly. 

Cutting a long story short, I was of the opinion that most of the meditation class attendees, were pretending.
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It is difficult, if not impossible, to definitively know if someone is "pretending" to meditate because meditation is an internal, mental process that cannot be externally verified [1]. External indicators only reflect outward behavior, not inner experience 
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Is it possible for a conscious waking brain to not think.
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You must be thinking about Trump and his unique ability.
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Good point.
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It could also be his dementia and age.