$1 Billion Looser Looes More $$$ Than Any USA Citizen Ever

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  • mustardness
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    How do you spell Big Looser...T-R-U-M-P.  Is that what Trump fears the most? That he is the biggest looser in USA history of cash in USA history?

    So biggest looser wins presidency via help from Putin and there immoral feeding on the racist and biggoted fears of 20%  of the  simple minded USA population.

    Real estate has the most loop holes to avoid taxes.  Trumps father avoided USA taxes like the plague.  With help from the immoral Roy Cohen -- a left over from 50's immoral McCarthyism---.

    So who are the immoral Trumpanzees that continue to to support this repeating list of immorality called Trumpism?

    Besides the 20% --or more--- of racist, bigoted and simple minded USA peoples we have....?



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    How do you tell when a politician really cares about the country?

    When he loses a billion dollars of his own personal net worth by running for president.


    From the article:

    "The presidency has been bad for Donald Trump's finances, with his personal net worth falling from $4.5 billion to $3.1 billion over the past two years, according to the latest Forbes billionaires list."
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    tax shelters and loopholes have been around for a very long time, you don't think the all the rich people in government don't do the same thing?  You think Pelosi doesn't abuse the tax loopholes?  Wake up to reality and get some help for your TDS


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    Yeah. Investing in the casino industry was a massive mistake for Trump. The new report simply puts a price tag on something that's been public knowledge since, well, since it happened in the first place.
    Keep in mind, of course, that this was about three decades ago.
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    What is far more interesting is the Billion he lost after 2016. No other politician LOST so much money by GOING to DC.

    Most politicians increase their wealth by thousands of percentages by going to DC.

    Even Bernie Sanders made millions.
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    I don't know, man. If I were a billionaire, I think I'd be happy to trade every penny I was worth for a fair shot of becoming President of the United States.
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    Well the billion Trump lost after 2016 was most certainly NOT voluntary. As a matter of fact he spent 50% less than Hillary and used VERY LITTLE of his own personal wealth in the election.

    What you think and what a billionaire thinks are not usually the same...hence why they are a billionaire and you are not.
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    I don't know GP.  Billionaires don't usually run for President.  That is why this election is so crazy, but also why people wanted a business person in office instead of a career politician.  I don't think Trump is your typical billionaire either.  Maybe Swag could run for president if he gets rich someday.

    I find it funny that I am pretty sure that everyone arguing with Mustardness is from the US, and he/she is not.  Just posting things like MSM says.

    And misspelling loser is one of my pet peeves.  He did it like three times.  I don't usually point out things like that, but I just couldn't help this one.
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    Billionaires don't usually run for President.
    New York city had billionare mayor.  How do we know Trump is a billionare? Cause he says so? 

    OMG! Believe what a narcissistic pathological liar tells you and you will believe anything, true or not.

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    Right, but the fact that he did not try to purchase the presidency with his billions by spending far, far less than Clinton means he was not thinking of making a return on his investment. In fact he publicly said on more than one occasion that he was going to lose money by running for the presidency, but that he felt he needed to do it to fix the country. That's a lot of sacrifice for a person who values money more than most people.

    From a person that graduated from business school (me) that's a good indication that Trump was never in it for the money.
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    tardness is a russian troll lol
    forgot his name on ddo but you'd think after all those posts and time his English etc would get better, and yet.....very odd.

    A modified flat tax would fix all this mess to a large extent.  But the tax bureaucracy lives on.  I had small hopes when the talk was making tax return forms the size of an index card or whatever they said.
    The tax code and I.R.S. only exist to enable to the rich to hide their money.  Can you blame someone for doing that if the law allows?  The federal government is full of millionaires who have been in government for decades making, what $175k a year?  Owning several million dollar homes.  They sure are good with their money (sarcasm in case it wasn't painfully obvious)
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    The regulation/insider trading game is so rampant in DC.


    While pretending that regulations are important to protecting the public, fatcats fleece middle class investors with insider trading when they throw up regulations to tank corporate stock prices...have their buddies like Soros buy it all up...then quietly remove the regulations.....

    Get the damn government out of the economy. It's not helping anyone but the 1 percenters. When you hear the government talk about regulations and subsidies, tell em to screw off, cause you know how the DC 3-card-monte plays out.

    That's why all the Congress are instant millionaires.
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    How do you spell Big Looser
    Big Loser.


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    But I thought all the Russians were for trump, not against. Is tardiness trying to pull some reverse psychology or something? It isn’t working, just like whatever else they did during the election.

    you know the rich pay almost 90 percent of all federal taxes.  They also have the money to find the loopholes, which also supports the expensive tax guys, so it creates jobs as well. These rich people aren’t using TurboTax.  What interests me is the cut to businesses, which does result in more jobs, higher wages and a better economy... this economy situation we are in now proves that. Of course at some point the market will drop big time, that is just the cycle of things, but Trump will be blamed, no matter how far in the future it actually is.

    trickle down does work. Not every owner takes advantage, but most do.
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    How do you spell Big Looser?
    Big Loser.

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    How do you spell Big Loser...Con Artist.....Trump......etc.

    I was incorrect in my loser in USA history comment. Apparrently he was biggest loser just in 80's and 90's.

    So why is Trump so in fear of releasing his taxes now?  Is he afraid of exposing himself to fraud charges?

    His taxes are truth and why is always so fearful of truth?

    I'm not convinced he is a billionaire as some around here some to think he is.

    I think people around here really dont know the truth and dont want to hear the truth in regards to Trump.  Aka  largest con-artist in history?
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    Do you understand business?  And how much secrecy there is?  Taxes gives a big insight into all of his businesses, and you know who would benefit from that?  His competition... His families competition.  It's like releasing your social security number for the whole world to see for a normal person.  He is the first Billionaire President, and all you have to know is how many properties he owns.  No one is trying to see his taxes to prove he is rich, they are trying to see his taxes to see how much he spent on them.

    Everyone knew he had some issues in that era.  A few of his businesses went under and filed for bankruptcy.  He, himself never did, another misleading thing the media has been spreading.  There is a big difference between a person filing for bankruptcy and a business doing it.
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    why would anyone give out any personal information that they didn't have to?
    what would be the benefit to him to release them?
    how useful would this information even be and to what end?
    just more political b.s.
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    Exactly.
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    Petulant Congressman...can I see your personal notes?

    Barr: No.

    Petulant Congressman: Why not?

    Barr: Why should you have them?

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    So why is Trump so in fear of releasing his taxes now? 
    Just a guess, but maybe he thinks it is not required of him to win the election.
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    Is he afraid of exposing himself to fraud charges?

    His taxes are truth and why is he and those around him always so fearful of truth?

    I'm not convinced he is a billionaire as some around here some like to think he is.

    Spell Big Loser...Con Artist.....Trump.....80's-- 90's

    ..."1) Trump's not as rich as he says: There's very little question that Trump overstates his personal wealth -- and has done so for as long as he has had personal wealth. He's said he's worth $10 billion; Forbes said in 2018 that number is closer to $3 billion. For Trump to be exposed as one-third as rich as he had said he is would be embarrassing, sure. But remember, too, that Trump equates wealth directly with success and importance. So being exposed as less rich would be a blow to his success narrative as well.

    ...2) He has Russia ties: While the Mueller report made clear that neither Trump nor anyone in his campaign orbit colluded with the Russians to help Trump win the 2016 election, it would still be a very big story if Trump's tax returns showed he had extensive financial dealings and ties to Russia. We know, from Michael Cohen, that Trump and his family were deeply involved in the potential construction of Trump Tower Moscow and that Cohen lied about that involvement (and how long it stretched) to protect Trump. We also know that Donald Trump Jr. said this at a 2008 real estate conference: "In terms of high-end product influx into the US, Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. Say, in Dubai, and certainly with our project in SoHo, and anywhere in New York. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russ


    ..3) He didn't pay many (or any) taxes: We know -- because Trump admitted as much -- that he used a more than $900 million net operating loss for his business in 1995 to avoid paying personal income taxes for a number of subsequent years. How? This, from The New York Times, explains it:
    "Known as net operating loss, it allows an array of deductions, business expenses, real estate depreciation, losses from the sale of business assets and even operating losses to flow from the balance sheets of those partnerships, limited liability companies and S corporations onto the personal tax returns of people like Mr. Trump. In turn, those losses can be used to cancel out an equivalent amount of taxable income."
    As the Times noted, Trump's $916 million loss in 1995 could have allowed him to pay $0 in personal income taxes for the next 18 years.

    ..4) He donates no (or very little) money to charity: We know, thanks to the amazing reporting of the Washington Post's David Fahrenthold, that Trump long used his charitable organization to feather his own nest and collect political chits rather than for any philanthropic purposes. (Trump shut down the charity in 2018.) It's not at all clear how generous (if at all) Trump has been to other charities over the past few decades. While there is no requirement for wealthy individuals to make large charitable donations, many do. And Trump has often boasted about the depth and breadth of his charitable giving."....





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    More speculation, just like the MSM.  This is what they do, speculate, and suddenly that has been changed to news.
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    if the I.R.S. hasn't/can't find anything criminal there's nothing TO find, that's their job and they are the experts.  It's like going to the doctor and getting a second opinion from the janitor.