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@Stephen
So at least in the case of his arguments regarding evolution you disagree semantically with his use of the term exact and your general complaint is that he does not offer citation.

Does that about sum it up?

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He never ever supports any of his ill thought out claims, ever, but demands supporting evidence of others. He will bully and badger and harass with the same old childish questions. I believe he is very sick and lonely. This is probably why he is the most vile person I have ever come across in a forum.

Arguing Christianity and questioning the bible is one thing. But hammering and pressuring people simply because they have a faith, is sick. He gets a kick from it. He never comes up with anything original or even debatable. My grandchildren are more creative in their questions on the subject than he could ever wish to be.

He is a vile individual who picks on the weak and defenceless and this makes him a fkn bullyboy.
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I am sick of this bully demanding proof and evidence and citations of others to support their claims when this FKN out right bully never ever supports his claims while demanding others do.
The poor little thing doesn't realise that when I quote the ToE as the evidence he assumes that Darwin created the ToE and it's just a theory, how very sad.
That's right. The buffoon made an outrageous claim that I know he cannot back up,  but, like he insists of others, I want him to prove his fKN claim . This was his ill thought out claim as ALL of his FKN claims are:
The ToE supports my claim completely and the numpty who thinks that Darwin "proposed a theory"  that he wants to believe is the ToE then I'm wrong. The numpty doesn't even understand the word THEORY.
This simply isn't true  as you have so rightly shown. For instance an alligator one of the oldest creatures living -  is still an alligator, it has not "evolved" into anything like a human or a fKN monkey for that matter. But the resident bullying buffoon will have us believe -  without evidence -  that  " We have evolved exactly the same process as every other animal that has ever existed on this planet"?  I want the clown to prove it.
Evolution is the most evidenced theory in science and yet extremely stupid people lie to themselves it's just a guess, because if it's not true then they die, the poor little things.
Which is not the then,  " exactly by the same evolutionary process" as the resident bonehead buffon claims. I want him to support his claims.
Of course it is. Evolution never requires your belief, your gods and fantasy do but I deal in reality, unlike you.
Such as this stupid statement: --> @disgusted Everyone lives in the same reality,
You were born on a planet spinning at ~1000mph and hurtling through space at ~ 63,000mph and you will die and no longer exist, that's reality.
Anotherprofound statement from our resident philosopher, physicist,scientist,naturalist, geologist, archaeologist, theologist and all roundegghead. Now is all he has to do is produce the evidence to support hisclaim. 
Done above, you can read it but you aren't capable of understanding it.
For instance:how does the reality of  a bushman from Papua New Guinea compare to thereality of  Hollywood star multi millionaire George Clooney and his multimillionaire wife  Amal Clooney the British barrister  whospecialising in international law and human rights and who jointlyown over 30 properties worth billions?
Read what reality is.
I am still waiting, for a answer . But he just ignores and runs away crying to mods that I am picking on him while he is forever bullying Christians who simply cannot answer faith based questions on their beliefs. He goes for the easy target because he's a fucking bully and a coward who should be banned. 

I think that you are the more likely to cry to a mod, after all I make mince meat out of your stupid posts and it's always you who wants justification for your absurdities.

We have evolved by exactly the same process as every other animal that has ever existed on this planet"?  
Try to get an education.
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Who are the weak and defenseless? Please nominate them and why they are weak and defenseless?
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 We have evolved by exactly the same process as every other animal that has ever existed on this planet"?  

And you still haven't proved it, you buffoon.

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Oh I have, you lack the intellectual acuity necessary to understand the answer and your refusal to educate yourself is a matter of pride to you, godists are all the same. 
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> @disgusted Everyone lives in the same reality,
You were born on a planet spinning at ~1000 mph and hurtling through space at ~ 63,000 mph and you will die and no longer exist, that's reality.
Another Profound statement from our resident philosopher, physicist,scientist,naturalist, geologist, archaeologist, theologist and all round egghead. Now is all he has to do is produce the evidence to support his claim. 
Done above, you can read it but you aren't capable of understanding it.
For instance:how does the reality of  a bushman from Papua New Guinea compare to the reality of  Hollywood star multi millionaire George Clooney and his multimillionaire wife  Amal Clooney the British barrister  who specialising in international law and human rights and who jointly own over 30 properties worth billions?
Read what reality is.

I want you to explain your claims.  Simply defaulting  to , "read a book"  every time you are challenged on your stupid and ill thought out claims is not you answering questions on your claims, I want you to prove it, you silly boy. You wouldn't accept that response to your questions from others , would you, bully boy?

Shouting "the theory of evolution" is not you proving that we all evolve exactly the same way. I want you to prove it.

Telling me to google something is not you proving your claim that "the word god did not exist before the middle ages". I want you to prove it.

 OR SIMPLY STOP DEMANDING EVIDENCE OF OTHERS THAT YOU KNOW ONLY EXISTS IN THE MINDS OF THE FAITHFUL! You fkn vile bullying coward!

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Can you just stop demonstrating your pig ignorance
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@Stephen
Before we move on I asked if you think there is
some reason to suspect that humans did not evolve through a process of adaptation determined by natural selection?

If not then your argument in this regard is mostly semantic which does not really address the base issue of the double standard you are accusing disgusted of.
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Before we move on .....

Before "we" move anywhere it about time this vile bully boy stopped demanding things of others that he is not prepared to do himself, the coward. 
Lets have proof of his claims.

 
is there some reason to suspect that humans did not evolve through a process of adaptation determined by natural selection?

 What I believe on the matter is irrelevant. I didn't make the fkn claim or any cliam regarding how homosapiens got here. But the resident anthropologist has done so and    I want the resident egghead bully boy to explain to us all how he comes to the conclusion that 
"we have evolved by exactly the same process as every other animal that has ever existed on this planet"?  

Telling me to "read a book" does not go anywhere in explaining his claim. So let the bully boy speak for himself he doesn't need you to bail him out of the fkn great holes he repeatedly digs for himself.



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Can you just stop demonstrating your pig ignorance



I want you to explain your claims.  Simply defaulting  to , "read a book"  every time you are challenged on your stupid and ill thought out claims is not you answering questions on your claims, I want you to prove it, you silly boy. You wouldn't accept that response to your questions from others , would you, bully boy?

Shouting "the theory of evolution" is not you proving your claim that we all evolved exactly the same way. I want you to prove it.

Telling me to "google" something is not you proving your claim that "the word god did not exist before the middle ages". I want you to prove it.

Telling me to "read a book" is not you proving how a Bushman from Papua lives in the "same reality" as a hollywood movie star or a high flying multi millionaire lawyer, I want you to prove it.


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You are having a discussion with me right now not him. I understand you made no claim and I don't know is certainly am acceptable answer but I would like to point out that I only asked if there was any reason to believe something not if you knew that something to be true. 
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 I only asked if there was any reason to believe something 

 That  and " before "WE move on" is what you have said. Who the FK are you to tell anyone before "we move on" that I should answer your FKN questions.  If you want to discuss natural selection start a thread and invite the forum philosopher, physicist,scientist,naturalist, geologist, archaeologist, theologist and all round egghead, to join you. It shouldn't take more than a couple of posts to run rings around him.  Meanwhile I am still waiting for the doughnut to support his claims as he persistently demands of others.  

So, you move on and let the forum bully boy speak for himself.
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I do not speak for disgusted and rarely engage him for pretty much the reasons you have pointed out. I had hoped you would provide a rational discussion but I can see you are in the middle of this thing with disgusted which makes it difficult for you to do so. Perhaps another time. Sorry to have disturbed you both good day.
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I do not speak for disgusted and rarely engage him for pretty much the reasons you have pointed out.

That is perfectly understandable.

And I apologise if I came over abrupt. I am annoyed that this vile bastard has been allowed to get away with his badgering and bullying for so long. He knows christians cannot prove anything faith based, but it doesn't stop the coward heckling and bullying.  But maybe I will discuss some issues with you some other time when disgusted has educated us all with his wisdom and knowledge on  how and why he believes that 
"we have evolved by exactly the same process as every other animal that has ever existed on this planet"?  
Or why he believes a Hollywood star or a multi millionaire lawyer share the same reality as a bushman in Papua New Guinea?
Or produced his evidence for the word god  not even existing before the middle ages? 
He's so fucking quick to bully  others for proof, supporting evidence , citations, yet runs a fkn mile when challenged to do the same.

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I still feel you are getting hung up 9n semantics in this case. I doubt disgusted meant that people are alligators or trees. 

Semantics is important in debate and I agree that he should soften his language but certainly you can find a better example of what you mean.

Just for the record I would consider banning as a last case resort as I tend to have a preference for inclusiveness over exclusiveness and anything that constructively addresses the issue is preferable to simply silencing someone.

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  1. it nearly impossible for me to wright rebuttals on weekend. after a couple hours of posting i made the claim about ferns and human thing. and he did not post about it for a while so i left.and now  i'm back. i am very tempted to post a reply because that would be very easy to do i have one in mind right now.i don't know if it would be right for me to start this argument again . but if you want to debate me on the creation topic on the debate section of this site. i will find the time to do that. because i have realized that the believing in god is stupid and its like Santa clause ideology is wrong. and is a dangerous way of thinking. people have been mistaking the dread feeling you get when your ungodly and mistaking it with depression. you can not truly be happy without the joy of the lord.  people are really cold heart because there ungodly and they can not feel emotion. they do not have that voice in there head that tells them something is wrong. aka the  holy spirit. for example most people have eluded to having rape fantasy and stuff. if your a christian you should have the holy spirit telling you that is bad. most people do not feel bad when they do that kind of stuff and they mistake it and think they are sociopaths.  when really there just suffering from ungodliness. i think i generalized a lot of people right there. i think i can prove life is created intelligently. i got some new points i want to post about.

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@Stephen
You're beyond educating. You are an angry little thing though, do you really believe that all of your anger, vitriol, insults and abuse should be tolerated on these boards?
I've answered everything you've asked and it would seem that your severe lack of education prevents you from understanding those answers.
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Start a thread, should be funny. Have you heard of spelling?
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to be fair i wright these while in my class during my limited number of times.


another thread you ask for.

i will happily give you one been wanting to address something for a while.


you want to have a proper debate
?????


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crossed me of your'e lest i justt red your'e thret.
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I doubt disgusted meant that people are alligators or trees.

That's right, people are people and not alligators or trees,even our resident bone head knows that .....doesn't he.... surely?

I just want his to support his claims that: 
"we have evolved by exactly the same process as every other animal that has ever existed on this planet"?  
Or why he believes a Hollywood star or a multi millionaire lawyer share the same reality as a bushman in Papua New Guinea?
Or produced his evidence for the word god  not even existing before the middle ages? 
He's so fucking quick to bully  others for proof, supporting evidence , citations, yet runs a fkn mile when challenged to do the same.



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I do not want to discuss disgusted any more. I wanted to have a duscusdion with you but you are clearly far to upset at this time. Perhaps someday we will however.
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@secularmerlin
  
 you are clearly far to upset at this time. 

Annoyed, is what I am. I can assure you this bully boy doesn't upset me in the slightest. I am annoyed  that this bully has gotten away with his bullying double standards and hypocrisy for so long . 


  
  
 I wanted to have a duscusdion with you....

You could always start a thread and invite the resident bully boy hypocrite with double standards to a discussion on why he believes that  
"we [humans] have  evolved by exactly the same process as every other animal that has ever existed on this planet"?  
Or why he believes a Hollywood star or a multi millionaire lawyer share the same reality as a bushman in Papua New Guinea?
Or to produced his evidence for the word god  not even existing before the middle ages? 


But you will have to get used to him not accepting facts that fly in the face of his statements and claims.


If for instance if you mention  early the 19th century Jean-Baptiste Lamarck who proposed his theory of the transmutation of species, the first fully formed theory of evolution.  He will deny your evidence and tell you to "go read a book". or to "google" something


If of course you mention Charles Darwin and Alfred Russel Wallace's publication of their evolutionary theory which is explained in detail in Darwin's On the Origin of Species he will tell you



A person, you, who doesn't understand the word theory is in no position to discuss the ToE but especially a person who thinks that Darwin proposed the ToE is just too ignorant to discuss anything.
So you see,this is what you will be up against,  this bullying buffoon who doesn't believe Darwin even proposed a theory on evolution! So you cannot say you haven't been warned.

Good luck.









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I'll just let the dunce know that the ToE is a specific THING, not something he pretends to assign to 19th century navigators.