To be fair this isn't really relevant to Evangelical support for Israel. I think they mostly support Israel b/c they're afraid of Muslims lmao.
And clearly there is a right side and a wrong side.
Fedora tipping.
Current activities in the territories, sterilizing black people, demolishing Palestinian buildings in East Jerusalem, acting as a big homie to Trump, spreading online propaganda, suffocating Gaza... New shit comes out all the time. I'm an Israeli, but it's really hard to be patriotic about a regime like this.
A two state solution shouldn't have ever happened in the first place. In 1947 at the time of the partition, the Israeli Jews were a small minority in the land. It was overwhelmingly Arab. The Arab League wanted to establish a state that would guarantee the rights of Jews in Palestine to citizenship, religious freedom, and local autonomy in areas where they are dominant. However, Zionism has always been about establishing a state in an already inhabited country - inherently leading to the disenfranchisement of the native Palestinian citizens once they got western support. Israel is clearly in the wrong here, if two state peace is not possible then Israel needs to go.
But I don't think it'd be correct to say that 20 years ago Israel was the good guys. Even so far back as the foundation of Israel, you had Israelis building mini-ethnostates by kicking non-Jews from their homes. Take the 1948 Partition Plan. Israel had a vastly disproportionate share of land compared to its population, and yet accepted the deal graciously. Even respected Israeli leaders like Ben-Gurion were talking about "abolishing partition and spreading to the whole of Palestine." Look at all the war crimes Israel committed in the Independence war and how few people were punished for them. Look at how quickly Israel jumped into war against the Arabs in 1967 and look at how they lied about Egyptians planning to attack first even when the military generals knew that Egypt wasn't ready for a fight. Seems like they committed war crimes there too. Look at Israel's questionable '82 Lebanon invasion, and how they potentially killed people themselves but also allowed the Phalangists to murder people in the streets. Look at what Israel did in Operation Protective Edge in 2014.
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What war were the palestinians fighting? As far as i am aware they were part of the ottomans who lost the war.
British didnt take over until the war ended. And yes, the Brits hold the majority of the blame in this situation and the situation as a whole.
I dont know the details of every operation, especially the more recent ones, but i am open to info, however i did read more on the earlier struggle. I am not saying they were innocent 20 years ago, im saying they were under legitamete threat from suicide bombings in contrast to Hamas's ineffective rockets of today. I was explaining why israel has become so hostile and jaded to palestinians. 100 years of constant violence did that to both sides, however Israel was far less hostile and violent at the beginning. They did not kick out any arabs until war started, and 1) they did not start the war, 2) they were under attack by the local arabs for decades prior to the war including an entire decade of nonretaliation. Once war starts, of course attrocities happened, but the lead up to the war is mostly on the shoulders of the palestinians imo. So yeah, they got alittle aggressive during the war, nothing unexpected.
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The british took that land from the ottomans. It was never self governed. The british promised the land to both the arabs and the Jews, who badly needed a place to live, and were also promising an egalitarian society of freedom and respect for Palestinians. The early Zionists were openly secular and very left wing. I would like to see a reference to palestinians offering freedom to jews, for they never showed up to any talks, and were the first to initiate violence.
The jews moved into empty lands and built cities, or bought homes voluntarily from willing palestinians. They literally put up with a decade of violence without retaliation from 1920 to 1930, and even then it was a breakaway group that was declared terrorist by the official settler bodies. Israel as is was established because of Palestinian xenophobia and violence.
