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@Reece101
Well, if I am correct in that you misunderstand the faith, your opinion cannot be an informed one.
There'll never be closure on whether God exists
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@Mopac
“It is a false dichotomy to put us at odds with science because our discipline makes more effective scientists”
Explain how the churches/Christian discipline makes more effective scientists? It’s a big religion.
“and the church has a therepeutic method that weeds out delusion better than what passes for mental health care these days.“
How so?
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@Reece101
Purifying one's intentions, motivations, direction of will, and desire towards Absolute Truth naturally cleanses the mind of delusion, grants deeper insight into reality, and makes one a more rational and less superstitious person.
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@Mopac
Platitudes and cliches.
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@Reece101
Then you can interpret it.
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@Mopac
All of this can perhaps be achieved.Purifying one's intentions etc......
But certainly not if a mind is clouded with religious delusion.
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Genuine? Does the following exchange seem genuine to you?
Can you please try not to strawman me.
How have I strawmanned you? I quoted you verbatim.
I didn’t claim you did.
Then your comment, "Can you please try not to strawman me." was curious. Did you have a suspicion that I intended to strawman you?
Intentional, unintentional, it doesn’t matter. Just try not to.
And now you say "If I want to be genuine"?
If you want to be genuine Reece, you're doing it wrong.
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@zedvictor4
If you were to put into practice what you claim is platitudes and cliches, it quite naturally, as I said,
"...cleanses the mind of delusion, grants deeper insight into reality, and makes one a more rational and less superstitious person."
And a great deal of what our faith is intended to do is treat spiritual delusion. The church is a hospital for spiritual delusion.
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@ethang5
Genuine? Does the following exchange seem genuine to you?
When your bald-assertions fail to be compelling, RUSH TO DISQUALIFY YOUR OPPONENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
.....Or mirror post spam.
Calm down man. Nothing here is worth getting that worked up about.
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@ethang5
In time you will come to accept the truth that you don't control me and therefore I need no excuse to do what I like.
And that I could not be less interested in your opinion of my reasons.
Lol!!
I predicted you'd spam the same mirror post to multiple threads.
Man, I must have burned you.
Now everyone will think the sharp comment is yours. Like I said, I have tons of them.
You don't need to credit me. I'm happy to help you out. Just imagine, if you were less interested, you wouldn't be spamming a mirror post.
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@ethang5
In time you will come to accept the truth that you don't control me and therefore I need no excuse to do what I like.
And that I could not be less interested in your opinion of my reasons.
Making yourself look dumb to the board is not recommended brutal. ( lol brutal)
This is online debate. I burned you. Get over it. Mirror spam posting only makes you look lame. And you went through all that trouble to make yourself sound
brutal.
Lol
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@Mopac
Ok.
But isn't replacing one spiritual delusion with another, somewhat counter productive?
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@zedvictor4
That is your assumption, that we replace one spiritual delusion with another.
13 days later
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@Mopac
To a liberal, his assumption IS reality.
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@ethang5
To me, an assumption is an assumption.
An opinion that attempts to state a possibility, rather than a fact.
Whereas Mopac states possibilities which they regard as facts.
Liberalism doesn't really come into it.
You seem to be hung up on that old, assumed, political dichotomy at the moment.
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@zedvictor4
Your comment seemed to consider all spirituality, delusion. That is why MoPac reminded you the it was your assumption, not necessarily reality.
It was obvious you considered your assumption to be fact.
You seem to be hung up on that old, assumed, political dichotomy at the moment.
Things are not true because they are new, and true things do not become false because they are old. Some things are dichotomous in reality.
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@zedvictor4
An opinion that attempts to state a possibility, rather than a fact.
100% this.
I like to call it, "a hypothesis".
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@ethang5
To a liberal, his assumption IS reality.
How do you know you're right and they're wrong?
Aren't you just making the exact-same-baseless-assertion (I'm right because I'm right)?
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@ethang5
In time you will come to accept the truth that you don't control me and therefore I need no excuse to do what I like.And that I could not be less interested in your opinion of my reasons.
This is the smartest thing you've ever said.
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@3RU7AL
Anyone who confuses his opinion with reality is wrong.How do you know you're right and they're wrong?
In time you will come to accept the truth that you don't control me and therefore I need no excuse to do what I like. And that I could not be less interested in your opinion of my reasons.
This is the smartest thing you've ever said.
Lol. That must be why you followed me around the board mirror-posting it.
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@ethang5
How do you know you're right and they're wrong?Anyone who confuses his opinion with reality is wrong.
Are you suggesting that people should always clearly distinguish FACT from OPINION?
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@ethang5
This is the smartest thing you've ever said.Lol. That must be why you followed me around the board mirror-posting it.
Wasn't it obvious?
They should always know fact from their opinion.Are you suggesting that people should always clearly distinguish FACT from OPINION?
Wasn't it obvious?
As I almost always say profoundly smart things, it wasn't.
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@ethang5
Wasn't it obvious?As I almost always say profoundly smart things, it wasn't.
Do you consider that statement a fact or an opinion?
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@3RU7AL
Which statement?
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@ethang5
As I almost always say profoundly smart things, it wasn't.Do you consider that statement a fact or an opinion?Which statement?
The quoted statement.
As I almost always say profoundly smart things, it wasn't.
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@Fallaneze
Yes we do know the answer.
Universe = God = Integrity of balanced { positive - negative } geodesic ( )( ) Space phenomena aka Gravity ( ) and Dark Energy )(
Fermionic matter is 2ndary to geodesic Space field phenomena.