Thoughts on FDR?

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    What are your thoughst on FDR, they are no History board so here we go
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    Fundamentally transformed the country where the government controls, regulates and oversees most aspects of commerce and welfare.

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    Yup, pretty much
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    Fundamentally transformed the country where the government controls, regulates and oversees most aspects of commerce and welfare.
    And extended "the Great Depression" to make it so (especially considering the measures taken by his predecessor, Woodrow Wilson, when dealing with a similar recession.) Not to mention that the fourteenth amendment coupled with FDR's removal of the gold standard essentially makes each United States' citizen a debt-slave in perpetuity.

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    The great depression was fully solved by WW2
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    No it wasn't. It was solved by relaxing the stranglehold the government had on private capital with its ridiculous regulations and price controls... FDR dying helped alot too.
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    Some things that come to mind

    • He used the radio to speak to the people, perhaps the most successful at manhandling press in American history.  He is the father of a more personal connection many Americans feel with the president to this day.  He was extremely popular all over the country.
    • Worked to undercut a socialism/fascism worldview which was taking root in the United States during the Great Depression
    • Dicey character, a strongman willing to commit Treason
    • The Reason 2 terms were mandated by law
    • Thankfully was there at the beginning, and not at the closing of WWII, when Truman was in power.

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    Good, though I would prefer if FDR finished off WW2
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    @Dr.Frankin:

    The great depression was fully solved by WW2
    No it wasn't. As Greyparrot mentioned, it happened by reason of relaxed price-controls; not to mention, there was a draft, so conscription was coerced, obfuscating the real costs of WWII.

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    Worked to undercut a socialism/fascism worldview which was taking root in the United States during the Great Depression
    Is that the reason a socialist like Adolph Hitler and a fascist like Benito Mussolini praised his policies?


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    I said FULLY SOLVED
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    I said FULLY SOLVED
    I know. Repetition doesn't inform its veracity.


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    You didnt debunk that, you said it about eh depressiona s a whole in its middle satges
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    You didnt debunk that, you said it about eh depressiona s a whole in its middle satges
    Do you mind resubmitting that in layman's terms?

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    ?     
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    you said it about eh depressiona s a whole in its middle satges
    What is this supposed to mean?
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    you said it about the depression as whole in its middle stages
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    you said it about the depression as whole in its middle stages
    Middle stages? What are you talking about? It's an assessment of the effects before, during, and after the war. For example, the unemployment rate appeared to have lowered because of the men who were conscripted into the War efforts.
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    The industry ended the depression
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    The industry ended the depression
    The War Industry? No, it didn't. Only the means to measure the aggregates (in GDP) changed. They paid soldiers below "minimum wage" and had millions of them in fox holes avoiding bombs.

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    It fully healed America, is that fair
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    It fully healed America, is that fair
    No. Had FDR not imposed New Deal policies, remove the Gold Standard, and threaten private property rights, the U.S. would've recovered from the "Great Depression" sooner.

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    Why, what is your solution, what I mean is that WW2 ofically marked the END of the depression
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    Why, what is your solution, what I mean is that WW2 ofically marked the END of the depression
    The state sponsored history books will mention as much. If you're however interested in a more shrewd and nuanced analysis, then read Robert Higgs' Depression, War, and Cold War.

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    Sure, 

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    I said it fully cured the depression