Pizza Mafia - DP2

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@ILikePie5
That's what I'm doing right now. 

Supadudz is... unusually inactive. This alone wouldn't be a scum tell, but he literally popped on this DP to VTL and then disappeared as soon as he was questioned on it.

Club also claimed Mason early on for seemingly no reason. Possible scumslip, but for now I think it's from noob mistake, given his relative inexperience.  

Those are the reads I have so far. 

I'm re-reading DP1 and DP2 so I can make a full townread.

I'll have a full, detailed analysis by tomorrow.

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@Wylted
bacon or canadian bacon?
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@Club
Club should be able to confirm now, right?
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Yeah I'm the other mason. Green olives (I think, I don't care really. Green or black, whatever club isn't.) Our PM has been pretty dead.

Pie you underestimate my willingness to bus, but that's a conversation for another day.
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@oromagi
Regular bacon. 
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So we are just missing supa claim. Based on the NK target or lack there of. Lynching supa then water if there is another scum should win us the game
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@warren42
Yeah I'm the other mason. Green olives (I think, I don't care really. Green or black, whatever club isn't.) Our PM has been pretty dead.

Pie you underestimate my willingness to bus, but that's a conversation for another day.

I trust you to advise Club once we die. He’s gonna need some help if either Wylted or Disc are scum. Shouldn’t matter tho. 2 will be alive till the latest and they’ll likely be BMD and Club. But Club can be your proxy. 
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@Wylted
So we are just missing supa claim. Based on the NK target or lack there of. Lynching supa then water if there is another scum should win us the game

Why Water over F4?
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As claimed-  this is a fairly plausible configuration

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2. Oro                    VANILLA             green peppers
3. Club                  MASON               black olives
7. Warren              MASON                green olives
8. Wylted              VANILLA               bacon   
6. Bmdrocks         BULLETPROOF   pepperoni
10. Pie                  COP                      cheese
9. Disc                   VANILLA              sausage
1. PressF               VANILLA             chicken
5. Supa
(hiding out under pressure)
X. Speedrace        GODFATHER      pineapple
Scum




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@warren42
Just a heads up, Disc and Wylted are the type of people I personally think willing to bus a GF with a cop still out there, so just keep that in mind for later DPs
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@oromagi
Did you leave water out of your list?
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Water claimed onion and vanilla
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I kinda want to switch my vote. I think water would be smarter than to target BMD rocks
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@Wylted
hell, yes i did...good catch



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@warren42
oh shit I forgot

Unvote VTL Cog
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Town
2. Oro                    VANILLA             green peppers
3. Club                  MASON               black olives
7. Warren              MASON                green olives
8. Wylted              VANILLA               bacon   
6. Bmdrocks         BULLETPROOF   pepperoni
10. Pie                  COP                      cheese
9. Disc                   VANILLA              sausage
1. PressF               VANILLA             chicken
5. Supa
(hiding out under pressure)
4. Water                 VANILLA             onion
(inactive, onion could easily be scum ingredient)
X. Speedrace        GODFATHER      pineapple
Scum

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@ILikePie5
kill me. I’m a princess. Once I die the next phase is skipped. No maf kills then if they active
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@Vader
claim now, sneakydudz!
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I’m sauce 
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@oromagi
just did

sauce, princess

lynch me and the next phase is skipped
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@Vader
Aight vote yourself then.
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@oromagi
Hammer Supa. If he’s lying then he’s scum, if he’s not, we still get 5 confirmed townies alive for another day.


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Town
2. Oro                    VANILLA             green peppers
3. Club                  MASON               black olives
7. Warren              MASON                green olives
8. Wylted              VANILLA               bacon   
6. Bmdrocks         BULLETPROOF   pepperoni
10. Pie                  COP                      cheese
9. Disc                   VANILLA              sausage
1. PressF               VANILLA             chicken
4. Water                 VANILLA             onion
(inactive, onion could easily be scum ingredient)
5. Supa                  PRINCESS        sauce
X. Speedrace        GODFATHER      pineapple
Scum

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A Beloved Princess is a player who, upon death, causes the next Day phase to be skipped.
"Beloved" has also been seen as a role modifier that duplicates this effect.
Beloved roles are most often pro-Town. They are either seen in setups designed especially for them (so it is acceptable for their death to be a "punishment" for the Town) or in role madness games where skipping a Day phase is not a complete disaster.
Despite the name, Beloved is not a well-liked modifier in most contexts. It is seldom seen and possibly still overused.
Variations
A common variation for Beloved Princess is that the Day-skipping event only occurs if the Beloved player is lynched. If the Beloved player is killed in any other way, nothing special happens. This significantly increases the chance of the Beloved role not crippling the Town.
Use and Power
As mentioned before, Beloved players only show up in games designed around them or in role madness scenarios due to their ability to take away a Day away from the Town.
In games designed around them, there is generally some kind of safety net in the game linked to the Beloved role such that if the Beloved player dies, the Town deserves what they get. For instance, in the game in which Beloved Princess initially appeared there was a Guard role that knew who the Princess was and had a limited-shot ability to protect the Princess from kills. In addition, it was known in advance that the Princess and Guard were in the game. This sort of setup can make for an interesting Mafia variant; however, it is susceptible to being wrecked by bad play from the Guard or Princess.
In role madness games, a Beloved role simply serves to add emphasis to the impact of the game's Night actions. To that end, it increases the swing of the game even more. As it still punishes Town overall, it serves as a heavy-handed means of weakening the Town.

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Yall notice how Supa conveniently marched in as soon as Warren confirmed his role lol? Hammer the crap out of him.
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@Vader
why withhold this critical info until now?  You've been on the chopping block for some time.
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@oromagi
why withhold this critical info until now?  You've been on the chopping block for some time.

It’s convenient. If we lynch him, the next Day Phase is skipped so we don’t have a chance to conduct our POE. He said that the night phase occur even though that’s blatantly false per the website you cited. All in all, he’s lying.
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I agree.  I'm ready to lynch.  I'm holding back because Disc asked me to.  Does anybody buy Supa's claim?
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@oromagi
I agree.  I'm ready to lynch.  I'm holding back because Disc asked me to.  Does anybody buy Supa's claim?

I trust you bro, it’s a yes from me. Just be wary of Disc and Wylted in future DPs if you’re still alive.
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@oromagi
No and sauce is not a topping