A confession and an apology

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Over the course of the past week or so, a group chat of old DDO users has been created on Facebook dot com. Through this group chat, I launched a campaign to get RM into the hall of fame. We got the ball rolling very early, pushing most of his early nomination votes. As things progressed we eased off and let the momentum we caused inspire other users to vote him of their own accord. I will say that he got enough nomination and final votes from non-malicious users to justify his placement in the HOF, but I cannot say what effect our early trolling had on giving him the momentum necessary. I apologize to bsh, RM, Mike, Supa, and all others impacted by our interference. I truly am sorry I was not able to let an election go by without meddling.
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confession noted
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Apology accepted. <3 Thank you for being open and honest.
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Do the votes still count?

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I believe so. That's up to bsh 
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Doesn't RM have like every medal on the site?


Why is a vote even necessary?
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What is your take on the scope of your influence? How many actual voters did you contact? 
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Doesn't RM have like every medal on the site? Why is a vote even necessary?

I thought something similar.... Early on in the site RM was far and away one of the more prolific and high profile posters, both in the forums and on debates, to the point that when medals were first introduced he racked them up within no time at all. Anything that had his name on it or in it immediately became must-see content, for better or worse, especially since for a while there wasnt a lot of activity on the site. 

To rig a nomination for someone who probably had the best odds of being inducted anyways? Its like rigging a car race between a Prius, a Dodge charger, a Polish tank from WW2 without its main turret, and a horse with a busted leg in favor of the Charger. Like no shit was it going to win, rigging it in their favor is just a monumental waste of effort. 
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Almost none of the “old” ddo users voted for RM. 
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It was a subtler campaign, and as I said if our votes were removed he'd still have the nomination and final votes necessary to make it. We just got him as a number one contender early on in the hopes that others would see RM had the most votes and toss another one his way
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Why not name the people?

(16-?) x = RM would've won.

I wouldn't know if you are telling the truth if you don't state who the people are. That question mark is there for a reason. I don't know because you haven't told me which is why there is an x not a number since your claim is without proof. Care to say? 
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I have a particular strong suspicion that this is just an attempt to make it seem like RM was the beneficiary of campaigning, after their preferred candidate(s) didn’t make it and/or lost out for the same reason.
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I have a particular strong suspicion that this is just an attempt to make it seem like RM was the beneficiary of campaigning, after their preferred candidate(s) didn’t make it and/or lost out for the same reason.
Doesn't TheHammer barely even go on the site. The person only has like 156 forum posts. This part would be questioning if the user even cares to do anything like this.

If someone was added in where is TheHammer's vote for them or if RM was the goal where are the old DDO users voting for him? I guess it is "old" DDO since it isn't really stated who they are. This part was where was the impact. 

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Another thing.

TheHammer didn't even vote for RM

"Supa
Mike
Virt"

The only person who I think could be called an "old" DDO user would be LordLuke. Other than that I don't think the "old" DDO users didn't even bother to show up.

LordLuke voted for RM.
"People
RationalMadman"


This is pure speculation.
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Why not name the people?
I don't think it would be fair to take them down with me. Most of them didn't even know about the no strategizing rule, I just asked them to vote RM. As for my own vote, I didn't want to draw suspicion so I only voted well into the cycle, after my people had voted and against how they voted.
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Why not only tell bsh1 so someone can know if it actually had an impact or not? 



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I have a particular strong suspicion that this is just an attempt to make it seem like RM was the beneficiary of campaigning, after their preferred candidate(s) didn’t make it and/or lost out for the same reason.
Get out of my head.

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I reached out to you via PM. If I can corroborate your information, RM will not be disqualified. I do, however, need to corroborate your claims. I certainly believe, based on this comment, that at least some of the information you have provided is accurate. I also want to say that I truly appreciate you coming forward.
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The hammer is a liar. He is making shit up as he goes along to discredit my victory. The voters who voted me did so of their own volition. He is just jealous af and had nothing better to today.
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I legitimately do not care, I think that apologies like this are not needed in any circumstance, and there should be nothing wrong with discussing this site off-site as literally every member here does.

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What are you supposed to be?  A demon-possessed satan-elf? 
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That's exactly what Therealnihlist is,congrats
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I don't get it. Can you explain what you just said? 
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Through this group chat, I launched a campaign to get RM into the hall of fame.

Well that was retarded. His induction was inevitable, why waste your time putting effort into making sure the sun will rise tomorrow?
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He is a demon-possessed satan-elf?