Office Mafia Day 1

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I almost forgot...

VTL AROSE
u forgot to unvote

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SirAnon: 4/7 (water, drafter, wylted,pieliker)
Supa: 1/7 (grey)
A-R-O-S-E 3/7 (Lunatic, supa, speed)
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You say I forgot to unvote (implicitly claiming I did) but then showed a vote counter without my name?

What?

I'm really confused


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TOWN
6. Oromagi
4. PressF              Dwight Shrute  COP
8. Greyparrot       Jim Halpert        VANILLA
12. A-R-O-S-E     Ryan Howard
11. Airmax1227   Toby Flenderson
7. Lunatic
9. Speedrace          CC PressF?
5. Supa
13. Wylted                                        not claiming  VIGILANTE
3. drafterman         (fem.)
2. iLikePie5
10. WaterPhoenix
1. SirAnonymous          A.J.              VANILLA                    
SCUM


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SirAnon: 4/7 (water, drafter, wylted,pieliker)
Supa: 1/7 (grey)
A-R-O-S-E 4/7 (Lunatic, supa, speed, PressF)
+1
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I did unvote

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Can you please explain #721?
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Everyone seems to be after you for your vote counts. Thus, I will give you a simple tip to help you keep track: get a wagon on you that comes within 1 vote of stringing you up. There's nothing quite like it as motivation to track votes.
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Can you please explain #721?
snafu

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TOWN
6. Oromagi
4. PressF              Dwight Shrute  COP
8. Greyparrot       Jim Halpert        VANILLA
12. A-R-O-S-E     Ryan Howard
11. Airmax1227   Toby Flenderson
7. Lunatic
9. Speedrace          CC PressF?
5. Supa
13. Wylted                                        not claiming  VIGILANTE
3. drafterman         (fem.)
2. iLikePie5
10. WaterPhoenix
1. SirAnonymous          A.J.              VANILLA                    
SCUM


COUNT(probably inaccurate)

SirAnon: 4/7 (water, drafter, wylted,pieliker)
Supa: 1/7 (grey)
A-R-O-S-E 4/7 (Lunatic, supa, speed, PressF)



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See. All you did was split the vote, making a lynch on either less likely.
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3. drafterman         (fem.)
2. iLikePie5
10. WaterPhoenix
Out of curiosity, why did you put them as your best scum reads next to me?


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What can u tell us about your character and role?
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inactivity and  some listmaking inertia
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snafu
Big oof


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@oromagi
R u drunk
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nope
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r U hiGH?
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Warren can claim the title of most forum posts in a mafia game
Nope. Here's some examples off the top of my head



Theres other games that got into the 1000+ range but I don't remember off the top of my head. And games frequently got 500-600 posts on DDO. Average seemed to be around 300 for DP1 though.
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See. All you did was split the vote, making a lynch on either less likely.
Implying we don't have time left to make a decision, which we do.

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nope.  but I am bumming re: bsh1.  I must be radiating gloom.
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I mean in DART
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I am actually fine with either lynch SA is a stronger scum lean but both are in my scum pile. So my vote will be with whoever has the most votes. SA I feel more confident in and it seems they are obvious scum to me. Not sure why others just have a weak scum read on him
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Here's the mafia game with the most posts (of any website):
SaGa Frontier Mafia - 5086 posts DP1

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woops accidentally tagged oro instead of you lol

oh well

THE MORE YOU KNOW
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nope.  but I am bumming re: bsh1.  I must be radiating gloom.
Oof so you're low. Gotchya.




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Arose was the first to lock down a claim of any kind, this tends to be a towny action... although the claim itself (Ryan) leads me to some concern, which I'll detail later in this post. I'll have to take Lunatic's word for it that his behavior is more scummy than usual since I have no perspective on it, and so Arose could be considered a target for the future.

I believe there is an inherent risk is getting too bogged down in thematic affiliation analysis, but Drafter's hunch on a Scranton Vs. others dynamic has stuck with me today for some reason, and I believe it has some merit. This might seem counter intuitive due to my character, but bear with me.

I feel like my role may confirm the inherent scummyness of the 'non-scranton' side. I'd rather not role claim at the moment, though please don't put me at L-1. This does FOS Arose (Ryan) to some extent, though I feel like we should explore that further later. It also puts in question any other non-scranton character of which we don't have any aside from me (though really I am ultimately a Scranton character, hence why I'm town), something mafia have conveniently avoided claiming as far as I can tell. This leads me to feel like AJ, an obscure non-scranton character is probably scum, and at this point a combination of behavior and claim should lead to his lynch.

The behavior aspect of SA is harder for me to justify, since I haven't played with him and much of his play can be attributed to being new. I feel like the immediate role claim though is scummy (and conveniently vanilla), and then it took awhile to get what we should have gotten already in the character claim.

Lunatic's efforts read town to me
Drafter always comes off as town to me so take with a grain of salt the fact that I read him, who is acting as a quality scum hunter at the moment, as town so far.
Supa posts a lot of stuff that doesn't read either way. If I didn't know his playstyle I'd read it as scummy, but for now I'm null on him.
I have no reads to expand upon at the moment on anyone else.

I believe SirAnonymous is our best bet this DP, and so I am going to vote for his lynch.

VTL SirAnonymous
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Well, I can't full on char claim because of one person pressuring me but I can say I am male and am town if that helps.

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On the behavior aspect of SA, this is his first game. A claim from one vote seems a lot less scummy. The guy voting him was oromagi, the same guy you character claimed to after one vote. He has since said that he didn't know that wasn't what your supposed to do and seems to have learned from the action, and his behavior has seemed pretty town since then. Honestly I don't know if pressuring someone over an assumed thematic element is the correct choice considering we don't understand the dynamic of this game yet. Is the distinction in your role PM vague, or pretty blunt about the anti-scranton thing? I just don't want something mis-interpeted to potentially lead us to a mis-lynch. Also your character is anti scranton too I thought since he works with corporate? 
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What can you tell us about your role and character?

UNVOTE 

VTL Pie
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Ultimately I'm concluding that SA is the best lynch target this DP, not that I have any certainly of it, nor that any of my arguments for it are particularly solid.

I don't know if pressuring someone over an assumed thematic element is the correct choice

I agree, and typically I would say it's not a good idea to analyze in this way, but I'm narrowing down the best choices and my gut is telling me SA.

s the distinction in your role PM vague, or pretty blunt about the anti-scranton thing?
It makes sense for my character, but it does not at all imply anything to do with a possible scranton/non scranton theme for the game.... I'm drawing the conclusion that my character's role is X, and therefore others in a similar place in the office universe may therefore be scum. it's a loose reasoning for sure.

Also your character is anti scranton too I thought since he works with corporate?
Right, this is the point, and therefore my role - which happens to be town... but everyone else may therefore be scum. I am possibly the one exception and therefore my role. On the other hand I could be entirely wrong about this, but its the best I have to go on right now.

I'm not going to be very active tomorrow, and by the time I get back from work the DP will probably be over so I want to be sure to go with what I think is best while I still have time. If in my further analysis of the DP tonight I reconsider, I will be sure to change my vote accordingly. But for now I feel like SA is our best bet.

I might be able to help town a little though by letting them know possible scum characters in this thematic alignment:

Off the top of my head the following all work for corporate:

Jan Levinson
David Wallace
Robert California
Charles Miner

Ryan was an intern at scranton and then eventually worked for corporate - so that might be scummy
Toby works for scranton as corporate HR - which is scummy I admit, but I'm town, and my role makes sense in the alignment I'm assuming

So if anyone in the town is any of the 4 characters above and wants to let us know that this alignment isn't accurate go ahead. However I'd caution that if any of the above 4 characters are town, they seem likely to be power roles.
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Are you a miller?
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Are you a miller?

I'm reluctant to say anything really since role claiming and even implication is risky at this point, but being probed for being miller and then being vague about it is scummy as hell. So no, I am not miller, I will most certainly come up innocent upon investigation.