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@Earth
End of the world. Want to experience it even if I bleed out and explode in empty space.
If you were able to live forever, what would you do?
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@secularmerlin
You clearly need help to get out. Idk if the immortality is necessarily instantaneous healing or what.
Also, you are so infantile about this it's actually disgusting to me. How can you keep whining 'but what if an Earthquake' and ignore that tech is evolving and your ability to be not only aware first but move out fastest from an earthquaked area able to leave everything behind as you can afford to replace it and would have the best deal with the highest priced insurance firms on Earth... You don't get it do you?
Unless you mean in a communist regime, yeah I'd hate to live forever in a communist regime because there, there's no benefit at all by living long. You can't work your way up the food chain. At least in capitalist corruption, there were some blacks who worked their way out of slavery and some Jews who corrupted their way out of Germany via bribes. I'd outlive the camps I assume even if I got gas chambered as I'm immortal.
You are just plain silly to think people won't look through the rubble of a collapsed building for you etc. I think the biggest risk is becoming famous. You'd need to make a fortress in one of the poles and blackmail anyone who came near to lie about meeting you. If you became famous as an immortal, humanity would want your secret and politicians would need them not to get it to appeal to the elderly and youngsters and not have to justify who dies to make room for the new and who lives forever etc.
You'd have to pay anyone who finds you not to tell etc.
Good lord RM, settle down.
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@Earth
The present, I mean, who knows what the future holds, and "comfortably" is relative lol. To me present day modernized countries are a testament to human innovation, and any citizens of those nations have it better than pretty much any other point in the past 🤔
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@Buddamoose
You'll only spend a week there. And comfortable means by modern standards and then some. But still not enough to bribe someone.
I'll probably go back to 9/11 or the Titanic.
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@RationalMadman
A fortress in one of the poles? You seem to have exchanged one potential prison for another more certain one.
Also why would you think that any tech would save you from all natural occurrences? It's the ones we aren't even thinking of that would represent the most danger. The ones niether of us realize could happen.
Hit by a comet...
Solar storm takes out all modern technology...
Nuclear war breaks out...
You mentioned poker well immortality would be like hundreds of millions of hands of poker which you are forced to play and in which you cannot fold.
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@secularmerlin
You are so wrong about your outlook. You need the ice fortress until contacting aliens or until the Illuminati is more open to become an actual oligarchy instead of needing to be elected by the masses etc. Then you and them can share yoru secret of immortality and actively dominate the masses but EVEN THEN it's better to be 'one of the crew' than the leader as you can hide behind them when riots break out or a coup occurs (you can turn on them).
You're nto forced ot play all the hands buddy, you're confused about how much more there is to a real life scenario than a poker hand. You fold by not going into areas where buildings collapse just like that etc. I don't really care what you say anymore, preach your defeatist outlook. People like you do not deserve immortality anyway, you would lay it to waste and pray to God every night to undo it despite being an atheist.
You talk about a prison, what about the prison of not existing? If you can't do anything you're the least free that's possible. Suicide doesn't free you, it chains you to oblivion short of your reputation and that's a prison entirely as others control the reputation once you're dead.
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@RationalMadman
Aliens? The illuminati? Share your secret? None of those is part of the original premise which is simply living forever. Living forever does not necessitate that conspiracy theories suddenly become true or that you can keep others from dying.
To continue the poker analogy you seem to be drawing to the inside straight. You don't actually know what cards you will get.
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@secularmerlin
You have a lot to learn Padawan and too little time to learn it. If only you or I had the time to learn and act on what is learned could we truly dominate reality.
We could be the pharaoh of all reality, having the highest pleasures be they sexual or emotional and the active, efficient avoidance of the lowest lows.
There is a large difference in all cases between a fantasy and the reality that the fantasy is based on.
I'm not telling you not to enjoy your fantasy I'm just pointing out that the reality of immortality would be unlikely to be as fun and rewarding as your fantasy paints it to be.
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@secularmerlin
Fun, no.
Rewarding, undeniably so.
I think there are safe places to be in if you are an immortal being. Though the heat death of the universe will be hell.
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@RationalMadman
So just to be clear your idea of a rewarding existence is to live in a frozen wasteland with no friends or family (and if you do manage to become close to anyone you will know ahead of time that you get to watch them die) threatening everyone who does happen across your hiding place for fear that the world's governments would kidnap you and subject you to horrifying experiments in order to determine the secret of your immortality (To be fair a legitimate fear)?
If we could choose the terms of our own immortality, I'd totally be down for this....
Given that immortality would mean:
- Being frozen at any age you want (as opposed to aging indefinitely and being unable to die while suffering the consequences of aging)
- Being immune to any sicknesses/diseases/disorders (viral, bacterial, fungal, radiation, mental deterioration, etc.)
- Either instantaneously healing (like cuts or broken bones) or if the situation calls for it, rapid regeneration (like regrowing lost limbs/head/etc.)
- If for some reason your body is unable to heal/regenerate (for example, being cremated alive or drawn&quartered or hugging an atomic bomb as it explodes) then you suddenly come into existence again into the last safe place you were before being demolished (like respawning)
- Bonus of having amazing memory and remembering everything you want to retain through your life (i.e. remembering major life incidents but having the ability to forget tragedies for the purpose of mental health preservation)
YOU BETTER BELIEVE IMMA EXPLOIT THAT SHIT
If I'm forever young, I can try all the things I haven't had the opportunity/means/time to try. I can travel everywhere and gain new experiences. As time goes on, cultures evolve and I GET TO WITNESS EVERYTHING HAPPENING. It would be cool as f*ck, like playing a non-meddling God.
If I'm immune to literally anything, I could help ease the super sick patients into their death without worrying about being infected. E. bola who? Don't know her. I could hold the hands of children who are scared and dying and alleviate their fear of the unknown.
I can be as reckless as I want. Jumping from a plane? F*ck parachutes lol I'm gonna F L Y .
Deep sea diving? Who needs oxygen lol I'm invincible and goodbye awkward scuba gear
Short on money? I can regenerate! Just sell my own organs on the black market and move to a different country with a new identity. I'd be filthy rich.
I could have flings all across the country with no commitment and no need to worry about catching STDs lmao. Accidental pregnancy? Sure I could keep the baby if I were bored, but imagine all the infertile/LGBTQ+ families I could make happy.
What if I want to settle down and be a family? I'd give it a try, but I know myself, and I know I'd be bored of playing house after like 10yrs. Get a divorce and send them a shit ton of money to keep them happy.
I could go and be a mob leader if I wanted to. Literally invincible. Gang wars? Shoot me lol my body will push the bullets out like nothing and I'd have a badass rep. Nobody would mess with my territory.
I could travel to a less developed area of the world and lie to all of them, pretend to be a god and make them worship me lmao
Easy to convince people you're more than human when you can't die. I would have a following and build up an army to take over the world. Once I've conquered everything and I'm bored, I could hop on a spaceship and traverse the rest of the universe.
Being immortal would be so much fun
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@RationalMadman
Are you saying it's possible to know so much that you're immune to random accidents?
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@AngelofDeath
If we could choose the terms of our own immortality.
We don't choose the terms of our own mortality so I don't see why you would be able to choose the terms of your own immortality.
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@Castin
If that's not what he is saying then I have misunderstood quite egregiously.
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@secularmerlin
it's hypothetical
the OP didnt define the terms of immortality, so I defined it for myself
plus it's just a fun thought, no need to take it too seriously
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@AngelofDeath
As I said to another poster it's fine to enjoy your fantasy. I'm just pointing out that the reality of immortality would be unlikely to be as fun and rewarding as your fantasy paints it.
I wouldn't take the offer unless it was possible to "reset" my brain from time to time (which would perhaps entail resetting my memories), so that I wouldn't eventually become totally jaded and unresponsive from having exhausted myself in everything.
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@secularmerlin
There is no reality to immortality though, it's all fantasy. Nobody has and nobody will live forever, so taking a fictional idea and saying that the "reality" of it is not fun would be ridiculous because you don't know 100% the full spectrum of the situation. Since it's completely imaginary, I could choose to see it as dreary as you painted it to be, or I could focus on the more enjoyable aspects of it.
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@AngelofDeath
Fair enough, immortality is just fantasy. If you were immortal however I'm pretty sure it would be a nightmare.
Would you still want it if you could not choose the terms of your immortality?
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@secularmerlin
what would be the terms of immortality then?
idk, it depends on how immortality is defined. Under certain circumstances, it could be fun
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@secularmerlin
@Castin
Are you saying it's possible to know so much that you're immune to random accidents?
No. I am saying your ability to bounce back from them increases infinitely as you age as long as your attitude is correct and brain isn't deteriorating over time.
I am saying your ability to perceive the same kind of accident increases the richer you get, the more that tech and your contacts increase and you'd know an incoming Earthquake or building industries had neglected in the design of more and more the more in touch with the powerful in society you got.
You'd never be 100% immune and never be 0% at risk respectively. You could only hope to approach the 99.99999...%
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@RationalMadman
So sort of like toward the end of a videogame when your character has amassed so much power, wealth, and resources that you can pretty much handle anything the game throws at you?
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@Castin
If you aren't being sarcastic, yes like that.
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@RationalMadman
I wasn't being sarcastic.
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@AngelofDeath
what would be the terms of immortality then?
That is just the point. We don't know and don't get to decide. If immortality happened to someone it might just be an accident. They might not even know that they are immortal at first.
If you are just fantasizing about being immortal than by all means define your terms accordingly. If however you are considering a hypothetical situation in which something is possible that we have not observed in the universe (such as immortality) and we want to be as realistic as the subject permits there are a few things we will have to admit.
One of those things is that we rarely choose our circumstances.
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@RationalMadman
So you can reduce the chances to like one in a million?
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@secularmerlin
Yes. Even smaller if you consider how dynamic each and every protective measure and advantage would end up being.