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Since you didn't even tell me how they changed their position I'll argue against this.
As community colleges are filled to the brim with liberal progressive idiots as professors, I would be surprised if I even got a C.
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So you are against institutions we use to decide whether someone is qualified or not on a specific subject?
Thank god for the University of Reality.
I couldn't find it. You sure it is a university? 
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There are two kinds of conservatives, wealthy charlatans and thesuckers who believe them. The wealthy tell the people what to believeand the believers believe it. This way the wealthy harnesses a largenumber of voters and they make the money flow to the wealthy withtheir votes.

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Since you didn't even tell me how they changed their position I'll argue against this.
They were liberal, wanting to import into their country every primitive idiot they could get their hands on. They no longer are that stupid.

As community colleges are filled to the brim with liberal progressive idiots as professors, I would be surprised if I even got a C.

So you are against institutions we use to decide whether someone is qualified or not on a specific subject?
How can one be against an institution? And what did I say that made you think I was "against" anything?

Thank god for the University of Reality.

I couldn't find it. You sure it is a university? 

You're in it. You won't fail it. No one ever fails it.
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There are two kinds of conservatives, wealthy charlatans and the suckers who believe them.
At least you seem aware that conservatives are the group that produces wealth in the world.

This way the wealthy harnesses a large number of voters and they make the money flow to the wealthy with their votes.
So you're against democracy when the voters vote against your progressive liberalism?

What is it called when the liberals harness a large number of voters and they make the money flow to criminals and  immigrants with their votes?
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Not your wealth the wealth of the wealthy.

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Are you going to add me as a receiver?
They no longer are that stupid.
Having border checks doesn't change the free movement of people principle. Border checks I am assuming would be extra checks that they already do. Even before this you would need a passport to travel around. Now I am guessing there are more checks. People are still freely able to move.
How can one be against an institution? And what did I say that made you think I was "against" anything?
Okay then. What do you think of professors?
You're in it. You won't fail it. No one ever fails it.
How about people who are dead?

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Not your wealth the wealth of the wealthy.
I know, and it makes no difference.

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Are you going to add me as a receiver?
I don't know you.

They no longer are that stupid.

Having border checks doesn't change the free movement of people principle.
Please tell that to the idiot democrats who are resisting a border wall here in America.

Border checks I am assuming would be extra checks that they already do. Even before this you would need a passport to travel around.
EU citizens did not need passports inside the EU.

Now I am guessing there are more checks. People are still freely able to move.

No one has argued that people are not free to move around. Pleas stop with the unrelated silliness.

How can one be against an institution? And what did I say that made you think I was "against" anything?

Okay then. What do you think of professors?
?? What do you think of cooks?

You're in it. You won't fail it. No one ever fails it.

How about people who are dead?
As I said, you pass or you die. Pay attention.
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You’re very selfless to give so much to the wealthy.

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Please tell that to the idiot democrats who are resisting a border wall here in America.
A border wall if you looked at my debate would realize would not help with illegal immigration, drug imports and immigrants boost the economy.
EU citizens did not need passports inside the EU.
Link: "With a valid passport, EU citizens are entitled to exercise the right of free movement (meaning they do not need a visa and don't need a residence permit for settling) in the European Economic Area (European UnionIcelandLiechtenstein, and Norway) and Switzerland."

Meaning they need a valid passport to freely move across EU countries. 
No one has argued that people are not free to move around.
Guess you agree the border checks isn't against the EU principle.
?? What do you think of cooks?
I hope I like their food. What do you think of professors?
As I said, you pass or you die. Pay attention.
Where did you say "you pass or you die"?
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I do Ok.

Your perception and reality are different things. America has built the greatest wealth for the most people, your claims cannot be true for America.
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hahahahahaha

America has built the greatest wealth for the most people

The top one percent of the usual income distribution holds over $25 trillion in wealth, which exceeds the wealth of the bottom 80 percent. That is more than all the goods and services produced in the U.S. economy in 2018.Jun 25, 2019

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Please tell that to the idiot democrats who are resisting a border wall here in America.

A border wall if you looked at my debate would realize would not help with illegal immigration, drug imports and immigrants boost the economy.
Does your home have walls?

EU citizens did not need passports inside the EU.
Link: "With a valid passport, EU citizens are entitled to exercise the right of free movement (meaning they do not need a visa and don't need a residence permit for settling) in the European Economic Area (European UnionIcelandLiechtenstein, and Norway) and Switzerland."
Meaning they need a valid passport to freely move across EU countries.
No sir. Have you ever taken the train from Paris to London? Were you asked for a passport?

No one has argued that people are not free to move around.

Guess you agree the border checks isn't against the EU principle.
I also agree fried chicken isn't against EU principle, what else have I not mentioned that I must agree with?

?? What do you think of cooks?

I hope I like their food. What do you think of professors?
I hope I like their teaching. Did that help you?

As I said, you pass or you die. Pay attention.

Where did you say "you pass or you die"?

Post #14 of this thread:
Reality is a hard university, but no one fails its classes. You just repeat till you learn or die.

Reading comprehension can be a problem for some. Just read more slowly.
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The top one percent of the usual income distribution holds over $25 trillion in wealth, which exceeds the wealth of the bottom 80 percent. That is more than all the goods and services produced in the U.S. economy in 2018.Jun 25, 2019
What difference does the amount of money the top 1% has make? I don't care if they have 99.9999% of the wealth in the world. It really doesn't matter how much the rich have. What matters is how much the poor have. The poor in America would be considered middle-class or rich in most other countries. Think about it this way: suppose there were 100 people in the world. The richest guy had 99.9999% of the wealth. Does that sound bad? Maybe, but it shouldn't. If that rich guy has $99 trillion in today's money, that would mean everyone else had a $1 million dollars in today's money. That's why the percentage of money some people have compared to others doesn't matter. What matters is how much the poor have in absolute terms. And if the poor are getting richer in absolute terms, which is what's happening in America, then we're headed in the right direction.

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Does your home have walls?
Yes.
Have you ever taken the train from Paris to London? Were you asked for a passport?
Please refrain from anecdotes. Do you have a link? 
No one has argued that people are not free to move around.
"TRUMP WAS RIGHT!… Denmark Closes Its Border with Sweden as Bombings Spread."
Did that help you?
Do you trust them in finding information about the specific field they are qualified in?
Reality is a hard university, but no one fails its classes. You just repeat till you learn or die.
You didn't exactly say what I quoted but okay. 
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It really doesn't matter how much the rich have. What matters is how much the poor have. The poor in America would be considered middle-class or rich in most other countries.
Thank you SirA. That was well said. And that is what liberals miss. But few of them travel, so they are mostly ignorant about the rest of the world.

Not being producers of wealth themselves, they hate the rich, and want to take their earnings and distribute to their poor voting slaves.

Elizabeth Warren rings a bell.
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Thank you SirA. That was well said. And that is what liberals miss.
You're welcome.
But few of them travel, so they are mostly ignorant about the rest of the world.

Not being producers of wealth themselves, they hate the rich, and want to take their earnings and distribute to their poor voting slaves.
I don't see how saying this kind of thing is helpful, especially the part about the "poor voting slaves." Even if you're right, it's still counterproductive. You won't change people's minds with insults.


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And if the poor are getting richer in absolute terms, which is what's happening in America, then we're headed in the right direction.
Link? 
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A border wall if you looked at my debate would realize would not help with illegal immigration,
Does your home have walls?

Yes.
Have you ever come home to meet squatters in your house? Did your walls impede that or is their only purpose to hold up your roof?

...drug imports and immigrants boost the economy.
Legal, educated, and civilized immigrants boost the economy. Illegal, illiterate, primitives drag down an economy. As do illegal drug imports.

TRUMP WAS RIGHT!… Denmark Closes Its Border with Sweden as Bombings Spread."

The point was that their behavior changed even as their beliefs did not. Reality forced that.

Do you trust them in finding information about the specific field they are qualified in?
Do you trust cooks in finding nutrition  about the specific food they are qualified in?

You didn't exactly say what I quoted...
Right I said what I quoted. Remember, I told you I would state what I wanted, not what you wanted.
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I don't see how saying this kind of thing is helpful,...
That is nice to know, I guess?

...especially the part about the "poor voting slaves."
See Paul's post above. He calls them suckers.

Even if you're right, it's still counterproductive.
Counterproductive to what?

You won't change people's minds with insults.
Those were not insults and I am uninterested in changing people's minds.

Changed minds are just a happy serendipity of my good arguments.
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What difference does the amount of money the top 1% has make
It puts the lie to thang's lie.

America has built the greatest wealth for the most people
Got it yet? Wingnuts are liars. Right wing shiteaters are oxygen thieves.


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Have you ever come home to meet squatters in your house?
No.
Did your walls impede that or is their only purpose to hold up your roof?
My walls did impede that.
Legal, educated, and civilized immigrants boost the economy. Illegal, illiterate, primitives drag down an economy. As do illegal drug imports.
Evidence that "Illegal, illiterate, primitives drag down an economy"
The point was that their behavior changed even as their beliefs did not. Reality forced that.
Do you have an example of their behavior changing?
Do you trust cooks in finding nutrition  about the specific food they are qualified in?
Yes if they are qualified in speaking about it.

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Have you ever come home to meet squatters in your house?

No.

Did your walls impede that or is their only purpose to hold up your roof?

My walls did impede that.
Waaaaaait for it.

Legal, educated, and civilized immigrants boost the economy. Illegal, illiterate, primitives drag down an economy. As do illegal drug imports.

Evidence that "Illegal, illiterate, primitives drag down an economy"
Sorry, I'm currently looking for evidence that dirty water cause diseases.

The point was that their behavior changed even as their beliefs did not. Reality forced that.

Do you have an example of their behavior changing?

Yes. This thread. Post #1

Do you trust cooks in finding nutrition  about the specific food they are qualified in?

Yes if they are qualified in speaking about it.
You have your answer about professors.
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Sorry, I'm currently looking for evidence that dirty water cause diseases.
What does diseases got to do with the economy? 
Yes. This thread. Post #1
Okay so closing their borders.
You have your answer about professors.
says this: "the immigration of low-skilledlabour (H1) reduces the wages of low-skilled workers, but enhances the productivityof high-skilled workers and capital."

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"the immigration of low-skilledlabour (H1) reduces the wages of low-skilled workers, but enhances the productivityof high-skilled workers and capital."
How does this contradict anything I've said?

Immigrant =\= illegal immigrant.

And the claim in your comment above is illogical nonsense.

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How does this contradict anything I've said?
Do you agree to it not whether it is contradictory of your position?
And the claim in your comment above is illogical nonsense.
What the diseases question? The economy is about money not about diseases. I am guessing you are referring to private business capitalizing on people by giving them a service to use in return for money or doing something that generates money. It just so happens that this very thing can happen. 

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See Paul's post above. He calls them suckers.
Just because he's using insults doesn't mean anyone else should.
Counterproductive to what?
Changing people's minds.
Those were not insults
"Poor voting slave" is an insult.
I am uninterested in changing people's minds.

Changed minds are just a happy serendipity of my good arguments.
Why would people join the conservative movement if we don't change their minds?


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Are you ignoring me?

Can you at least me what I did? 
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Here's a link.
This article explains data from the Census Bureau. From 1967 to 2018, the real, inflation-adjusted income of the bottom 20% has increased by 28.8%.
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It puts the lie to thang's lie.
No, it doesn't. See the link I posted for TheRealNihilist. The poor are getting richer too.
Wingnuts are liars.
What's a wingnut?
Right wing ****eaters are oxygen thieves.
No one owns oxygen, so it's impossible to steal it. There's more than enough for everyone.