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@Speedrace

Yes, that's why I said it's flawless unless they throw. If they throw then we lose to, but they lose as well. That's the risk, but I'm counting on Mafia wanting to win

It’s idiotic for town to lynch while a Jester is alive. Especially a confessed Jester

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Shoot, I just realized the DP ended a couple of hours ago

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@ILikePie5

It’s idiotic for town to lynch while a Jester is alive. Especially a confessed Jester

The plan literally NKs the Jester, that's the entire point

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I think we need to wait to see if it's possible to joint win with a jester. I don't see why it wouldn't be possible.

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Follow the plan. If Press ISN'T NKd, he MUST be Mafia

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@SirAnonymous

It's not. How would it be possible? He he's lynched, he wins, period. It's also in the role sheet as well I believe

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How can it be over? It hasn't been 36 hours since the DP started. It's only been 15. I think he had the date of the ending time wrong.

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Will you follow my plan to lynch Press if he isn't NKd?

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@SirAnonymous

I think we need to wait to see if it's possible to joint win with a jester. I don't see why it wouldn't be possible.

Jester wins when they’re lynched there’s, no joint win per win condition

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@SirAnonymous

How can it be over? It hasn't been 36 hours since the DP started. It's only been 15. I think he had the date of the ending time wrong.

Whew we good then

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@Speedrace

Follow the plan. If Press ISN'T NKd, he MUST be Mafia

Dude you’re gambling so hard rn.

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@ILikePie5

Do you think Mafia wants to win? Yes or no. If you think Mafia is ok with throwing, then go ahead, don't follow the plan. But if you think Mafia wants to win, THERE'S NO REASON TO NOT DO IT. Literally the only way this doesn't go our way is if Mafia is ok with losing

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Do you think Mafia wants to win? Yes or no. If you think Mafia is ok with throwing, then go ahead, don't follow the plan. But if you think Mafia wants to win, THERE'S NO REASON TO NOT DO IT. Literally the only way this doesn't go our way is if Mafia is ok with losing

I already told you, they have an out (I can’t disclose it).

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So tell me lol. If we don't do the plan, then the out doesn't matter since we're not doing the plan...

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@ILikePie5

If they have an out, we need to know what it is so we don't do the plan. If they have an out, then we shouldn't do the plan, so the out won't matter.

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@ILikePie5

I'm starting to suspect that YOU'RE the mafia. This plan entirely hinges on Mafia wanting to win, so the only reason to not do the plan is we think Mafia is ok with throwing. And then you come up with some "out" that you can't say?

You're excuse for not saying it was that we have inexperienced players. That would really be press and water, but Water is confirmed, and press can't kill himself, so if he's Mafia, there is no out

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@SirAnonymous

If they have an out, we need to know what it is so we don't do the plan. If they have an out, then we shouldn't do the plan, so the out won't matter.

+1 precisely my sentiments

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@Speedrace

I'm starting to suspect that YOU'RE the mafia.

No I’m a townie who thinks it’s stupidity to lynch while a Jester is alive

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If they have an out, we need to know what it is so we don't do the plan. If they have an out, then we shouldn't do the plan, so the out won't matter.

Mafia kills a townie. It’ll be 2-1-1. 3 votes to lynch. Town needs support of Jester in which case Jester loses, hence mafia wins. Simple really.

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@ILikePie5

Which is why we should do the plan that LITERALLY NKS THE JESTER if you haven't been reading

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@ILikePie5

That wouldn't work because the jester would vtl themselves. They want to be lynched, remember?

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@ILikePie5

Jester won't win anyway, and therefore has no reason not to vote Mafia

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@Speedrace

And then you come up with some "out" that you can't say?

I can say and I just did. But now mafia knows.

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@Speedrace

Jester won't win anyway, and therefore has no reason not to vote Mafia

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They have no reason to vote with town either lol

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@SirAnonymous

That wouldn't work because the jester would vtl themselves. They want to be lynched, remember?

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That’s why I’m saying it would be idiotic to lynch while a Jester is alive lmao.

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@ILikePie5

That out wouldn't work. If the mafia NKs a towny and PressF is the jester, then the plan would have us vtl PressF. Since he would hammer himself, mafia would lose. If PressF is the mafia, then the plan works. Either way, the mafia can't win.

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And no, that's not an out. If Mafia is anyone who isn't Press, they'll kill someone who isn't Press. Then we vote Press, he votes himself, Mafia loses. Therefore, they still have to NK Press or lose.

If Mafia IS press, he'll kill anyone, we vote him, Jester votes because he would be revealed if he doesn't. Jester can't win no matter what

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@SirAnonymous

That out wouldn't work. If the mafia NKs a towny and PressF is the jester, then the plan would have us vtl PressF. Since he would hammer himself, mafia would lose. If PressF is the mafia, then the plan works. Either way, the mafia can't win.

In which case we both lose. We are gambling on the fact that mafia will kill Press. If he’s alive, he’s a confessed Jester and y’all would still lynch him. What logic do you see in this,

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@Speedrace

And no, that's not an out. If Mafia is anyone who isn't Press, they'll kill someone who isn't Press. Then we vote Press, he votes himself, Mafia loses. Therefore, they still have to NK Press or lose.

Yup and Town will lose too cause they knowingly lynched a confessed Jester.

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