Marijuana Legalization

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  • jquill
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    For my psychology class, We are supposed to find pros and cons of legalizing marijuana. I personally am against it for recreational use so I decided to solicit some input from others to broaden my knowledge on the subject.

    What are your thoughts?



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    It's far far safer than booze.
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    We made a mistake by not regulating booze legally, then realizing how bad it is, we tried to take it back during prohibition, but it was too late.  Do we want to make the same mistake with a psychedelic drug?  What is next?  This will just cause the divorce rate to rise even more.
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    While I don't think it should be legalized I don't want people to go to jail for it either.  Just like you can't go to work drunk or if you get hurt at work and they find alcohol in your system, marijuana can also be treated the same way.  many employers do pre hire drug screens as well.  The amount of controls and regulation I would want really isn't possible.  Anyone who is supported by my tax money should not be allowed to use alcohol, drugs etc, no luxuries on my dime, you want it go earn it.

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    People need to have agency to take care of themselves. Would you ban all tide pods because some stupid people ate them?

    You go down this road, and everything is bannable on the basis that stupid people will hurt themselves.
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    It changes a persons personality, causes hallucinations (if you have the really good stuff), makes some people dumb... like yours truly.  Then it also leads to other things... it will be bad on people's lungs, some people can't handle marijuana and freak out, checking themselves into hospitals because they think they are going to die, but ultimately don't.  Do you know of any legal (or over the counter) drug that sometimes freaks you out, or gives you a panic attack?  I don't unless you take extreme amounts of it.  

    With Marijuana, you don't need that much to freak someone out if it does not settle with them.
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    Alcohol has more permanent effects on the brain and body than weed.
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    The only problem I can see for legalization of marijuana is accurately detecting impairment while driving. There isn't to my knowledge a perfect solution for testing recent use that officers can administer on the side of the road yet.

    No matter what, classifying it as a schedule 1 drug federally right now which means there is no medicinal use is silly since states are legalizing "medicinal marijuana". 

    Tax it just like cigarettes and alcohol and we will have more positives than negatives in regards to it. And less side effects as you won't have people lacing it if it's federally regulated. 
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    There isn't to my knowledge a perfect solution for testing recent use that officers can administer on the side of the road yet.
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    The only problem I can see for legalization of marijuana is accurately detecting impairment while driving.
    Officer: What is your name? How old are you? Do you know where you are? How many fingers am I showing you? Whats so funny?

    Officer: Please stand on one leg and touch your nose with finger from one hand then a finger from the other hand? Whats so funny?

    Officer: Walk this white line? Whats so funny?

    Officer: Please stop laughing. I am officer of the law I do not want to get a contact high and begin laughing also.

    Officer: OMG Please Please stop laughing Please, or I will have to arrest for driving under the influence of a mind altering substance.





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    It's not difficult to know who is high, you just need to check whether the person's pupils are dilated or not. With that clue the officer can order a deeper examination in a lab.

    I'm for the legalization too. If americans can use a gun, why not smoke a weed. Lol, this country is unbeilevable!!!
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    we should be cautious due to mental illness and how pot can cause that. schizophrenia and such. i think using pot doubles the risk a person will experience that illness. so in a sense it's a lot cause it's double the risk, but on the other hand, i think it's only like one percent of people who will get that doubled risk and happen to them. 
    i mean if you dont care about stopping people from hurting themselves that's one thing. but i dont support legalizing all drugs and feel that sometimes people need to be saved from themselves. 
    i would probably legalize it because of how few people are badly affected. but it should be done with caution, and if we need more time to verifty the things i'm saying, then we can wait to make it nationally legal until the states are used as labs. 

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    Are you American?
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    This will just cause the divorce rate to rise even more.

    Lol no need for evidence just say your BS. Correlation doesn't mean causation, but as weed becomes more legal and widespread, divorce rates are also dropping. http://time.com/4575495/divorce-rate-nearly-40-year-low/
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    Ok.  That is like saying alcohol is not a factor when it comes to break-ups or divorces.  Do I really need to site that position or is that BS as well?

    Weed would be the same way.  It changes your personality, some people it makes more agreeable, some people it makes them less agreeable, some people get lazy, others get happy, some go crazy, some get dumber.  The point is it changes who you are normally.... So when someone that did not smoke before decides to take it up because it is now legalized, then smokes all the time, the spouse will probably think "this is not the person I married", which will ensue arguments, then an ultimatum.  


    I don't need stats to come to that determination.
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    Correction "cite that position"
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    By the logic you're using we should make the video game Fortnite illegal because it too has contributed to divorce. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/18/divorce-online-survey-couples-now-blaming-fortnite-for-divorce.html
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    The reason that is a news article is because it is so ridiculous, it's almost satire, and further proves how quickly people of the new generations give up on their relationships.  I'm talking about mind altering drugs, not morons who can't get away from video games long enough to spend time with their families.  (and the moron doctors who call it a disorder giving them an excuse..... but, but, but, it's been recognized by the World Health Organization as a disorder!)  Give me a break, get off your butt and do something different.

    What are we, all identifying as 12 year olds now?
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    It is in line with the logic you're using by pending drug legality by virtue of its potential effect on a marriage. Mind altering drugs can also enhance a marriage. Does that not give reason to legalize them then?
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    I'm sure Fortnite has also brought people together as well... so has spirits, but I still think that we would make spirits illegal if we could, but there is too much money in it and it would be prohibition all over again. 
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    But you're not really telling us why they ought to be illegal. I've already shown why basing it on how it may effect marriages makes no sense. Lots of things can destroy marriages, but that shouldn't be the criteria for banning things.
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    If you put it on a scale of pros and cons.... it is a con, it may not be actual criteria.  My point is it changes who you are, your personality, just like other drugs do.... I agree with a prescription, but not full scale legality.
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    If you put it on a scale of pros and cons.... it is a con
    Are you really giving it a fair account? Alcohol and other drugs have existed for millenia and civilization and marriage still persist.

    My point is it changes who you are, your personality, just like other drugs do.... I agree with a prescription, but not full scale legality.
    The same could be said about Fortnite, or really any addictive habit. Should video games be by prescription only?
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    Alcohol is the only existing legal drug that has effect on your judgement.  Like I said, if we could go back in time, we would have made it illegal.  Tobacco has no effect on your judgement, caffeine has no affect on your judgement or your personality.  The rest are by prescription only, or completely illegal.


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    When it comes to video games, you could compare that to cats, or some people that are addicted to eating their foam mattresses, or hoarders.  You can't make that stuff illegal because it does not change your body chemistry.