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If you're truly proud of what you are, just be honest and say it.
I am.

And from your very roundabout way of getting your message across, it would seem that despite your purported convictions you are nonetheless  a tad embarrassed to come right out with it.

Embarrassed about what?

Well I suppose it's quite obvious what sort of person you are.

What sort of person am I?

But that won't alter the fact that other than the original inhabitants of the land now known as the U.S.A. you are as much an immigrant descendant as every one else is.

The Native Americans came across a land bridge. Were they immigrants as well? No, there wasn't a country to immigrate to. You could call them migrants, though. Same with the colonists.

And consequently, your specific bit of culture is only relevant to your specific little bubble.

I recently travelled the breadth of The Southern U.S.A. from California to Georgia and the ethnic mix of people that I came across was far more diverse than I was expecting and it would have to be said that in those regions people of Northern European descent did not make up the majority.

I would therefore suggest that you might find, not just the World but also the U.S.A. outside of your bubble to be quite a scary place to live.

One World, One People.
I don't think that every region of the US is exactly the same. Any country has slight cultural differences within certain regions. But, generally speaking, someone in Georgia will culturally resemble someone in California moreso than they would resemble someone of another country.
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So what makes you proud?

Yep it is thought that "Native Americans" might have descended from North East Asia. Nonetheless they still have a valid culture that predates yours.

As I said. I found peoples across the Southern U.S. to be ethnically and culturally diverse.

And everyone that I met and spoke to were all very pleasant and welcoming. As I'm sure you would have been too.
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So what makes you proud?

Our values which have led to our success as a nation.

Yep it is thought that "Native Americans" might have descended from North East Asia. Nonetheless they still have a valid culture that predates yours.

What do you mean by "valid culture"?

And everyone that I met and spoke to were all very pleasant and welcoming. As I'm sure you would have been too.

Probably.

As I said. I found peoples across the Southern U.S. to be ethnically and culturally diverse.

Yes, but still more similar to each other than they are to people in England or Zimbabwe. 
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I love how people say they want open borders but don't want to open their own homes to illegals and unlock the doors and keep the gates and stuff open for them to come on in.
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Open borders for thee, but not for me.
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Oh, I see they changed the @ notification name tag from blue to red...

But anyways, I don't want illegal aliens running wild in my country, do you?
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Wait, the @ notification name tag text is red for you but black for me
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Would a rose by any other color not smell just as sweet?

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Are you also proud of you multi-cultural, multi-ethnic and secular society?

In your eyes, do the people that inhabited the land now known as the U.S.A. prior to Northern European and other settlement and who obviously still do inhabit that said land make a valid cultural contribution to U.S. society?

And are you suggesting that you feel strong national solidarity with the ethnically diverse peoples of the Southern U.S. whom you regard as similar to you?

And are you also suggesting that you think that your fellow U.S. citizens of Central American origin that inhabit the Southern U.S. are more culturally similar to you, or more culturally similar to their Central American cousins?
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Why are illegal immigrants invisible to liberals?
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@zedvictor4
Are you also proud of you multi-cultural, multi-ethnic and secular society?


I think our culture is getting worse and that some people are beginning to abandon the values that made us great.

In your eyes, do the people that inhabited the land now known as the U.S.A. prior to Northern European and other settlement and who obviously still do inhabit that said land make a valid cultural contribution to U.S. society?

Not really. Most the of them that kept their culture live on reservations and interact with us very little. Except maybe when we go to their casinos ;)

And are you suggesting that you feel strong national solidarity with the ethnically diverse peoples of the Southern U.S. whom you regard as similar to you?

Most Americans do share some values, so in that regard, yes. I would likely feel more strong solidarity with someone from Georgia than I would with the average Californian, though.

And are you also suggesting that you think that your fellow U.S. citizens of Central American origin that inhabit the Southern U.S. are more culturally similar to you, or more culturally similar to their Central American cousins?

That would have to be determined on an individual basis. I don't know how every single immigrant has assimilated. I will say that there are large chunks that live in their own enclaves and refuse to learn our language. I don't think they are culturally similar, but those that accept our values and love our country are culturally similar.

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Interact with us. made us great.
You cannot avoid the us and them. But the U.S. always has been you and them.

And how much do you bother to try and interact with them? Except maybe when you wish to visit their casinos.


And that's my point. The diverse peoples of the Southern U.S. are no more or less immigrant descendants than you are.

Just because other people might look, sound and think slightly differently, doesn't make them any less a U.S. citizen. and certainly does not make you superior in any way.