OSBM II DP TWO

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@Vader

I said misread something again, this is a common occurrence for me drafterman stop acting like this is new shit that happens from me

It's not about you misreading things, it's about you apparently forgetting your own actions you submitted.

They are not fucking guarenteed mafia because I used all 3 of my powers in one night and I copped you and you came guilty. Suck it

You haven't really figured out how this game works, have you?

From DP1 OP:

1) The number of votes needed to end a DP is equal to half the remaining players rounded down. However, if all surviving members of the town are on the same wagon or VTNL then that lynch or VTNL will go through.

2) Players on the mafia team will not have their vote counted unless there is a townie on that wagon, in which case for each townie on the wagon one mafia players vote will count.

Last phase's lynch at 4/5 only happened becaus every townie was on that wagon. That's the only way it could happen according to the rules of the game. If less than one Townie was on the wagon then it would have required all 5 votes. That means everyone not on that wagon is scum. It also means that exactly one person on the wagon is scum as well.

It doesn't matter dreams of scum can appear on mafia sheet too

You only get one dream. You either get a dream of one person you can trust OR you get a dream of three people of which at least one is mafia. You don't get both dreams.

This is a desperate gamble because you've realized it's autolose for Mafia.

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My actions last night:

Vig Zaradi

Doc oro

Dream (You dream of pressF4respect, Virtuoso, and ILikePie.)

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@drafterman

Well that is not how I setup my game may have to change that then. Then it is someone else, bahinga

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@Vader

Lol, so you faked your results based on how you run the role rather than how DD does. Excellent.

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@drafterman

Hid Virt's name because then you would manipulate town to think he is mafia when I clearly copped you

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@Vader

Except if virt was town, the Lynch wouldn't have gone through.

Also, it's amazing you got three results that all make me guilty.

You realize that Oro just has to confirm with the mod that you only get one dream, right? Just give it up, dude

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@oromagi

Supa slipped. He's scum. It's just you and me. Can we Lynch virt please?

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@drafterman

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VTL SupaDudz

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@oromagi

Uh... that's not virt. I fear that Supa is deliberately trying to get lynched because he's a goon vs. a roleblocker.

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oops sorry. I was distracted

UNVOTE

VTL Virtuoso

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VTL Drafter!

I USED A COP ACTION ON HIM. HE'S GUILTY!

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Cool story, bro.

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https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/3320/osbm-ii-dp-two?page=1&post_number=4

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@Discipulus_Didicit

https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/3320/osbm-ii-dp-two?page=2&post_number=40

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@drafterman

It's true.

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VTL Drafter

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@Discipulus_Didicit

drafter lynched

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Oh uh wow okay. Gimmie a sec to tally the votes.

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For the record BP can be roleblocked in this bastard ass game. Maf cannot choose what role to block though, just which person, and as per the public description of the roleblocked role they can block only one action (chosen at random by RNG by the mod)

Still getting a (possibly) final VC together.

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Vote Count

Virtuoso (3/3) - drafter, supa, oro

Drafterman (2/3) - virtuoso, pie

Virtuoso was lynched. He was... Guilty. Submit night actions.

Attention: The town is no longer outnumbered by theafia. As a result they are now limited to 2 night actions.

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@David

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See above. Also please cease posting. If you believe there VC is in error or have any other concerns please PM me.

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@Discipulus_Didicit

I unvoted Virt before the hammer on ormagi. Drafter should be lynched

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@Vader

As I very clearly asked, please address any vonconce to me in PM.

I will now triple check the VC.

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Vote Count

Virtuoso (2/3) - drafter, oro

Drafterman (3/3) - supa, virtuoso, pie

Okay I guess I missed the post where supadudz switched his vote. I screwed up, the VC should look like this.

VIRTUOSO HAS NOT BEEN LYNCHED. NOT LYNCH HAS OCCURRED YET. THE DP IS STILL ON. ALL 5 OF YOU ARE STILL ALIVE. TOWN STILL HAS 3 NIGHT ACTIONS AS LONG AS THEY ARE OUTNUMBERED. THE ABOVE VOTE COUNT IS ACCURATE... PROBABLY.

I go back to sleep now. I have gotten about 30 hours of sleep in the last 7 days so sorry for the mix-up. If you have any questions they will probably be answered by rereading the rule changes in the OP. The ones that are in bold and say ATTENTION right before them? Yeah those ones. Pretty clear based on PMs I have gotten that those and the similar message in the original (incorrect) vote count were not read by everyone.

Oh also the DP has 32 hours left in it. Will consider an extension if requested, no guarantees.

Someone please summarize the important points of my post into a neat bullet point format for players to read since it seems about 50% of you don't read anything I write.

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@Discipulus_Didicit

My understanding is that if all Town is on the same lynch, then that's a lynch without needing any additional votes:

1) The number of votes needed to end a DP is equal to half the remaining players rounded down. However, if all surviving members of the town are on the same wagon or VTNL then that lynch or VTNL will go through.

So if me + oro isn't enough to vote Virt then me + Supa (posts #4 and #6) should have.

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Well ain't that a kick in the pants. This tells us a lot.

Let's recap the rules:

Special Rules

1) The number of votes needed to end a DP is equal to half the remaining players rounded down. However, if all surviving members of the town are on the same wagon or VTNL then that lynch or VTNL will go through.

2) Players on the mafia team will not have their vote counted unless there is a townie on that wagon, in which case for each townie on the wagon one mafia players vote will count.

3) All players votes will appear on vote counts as normal regardless of whether their votes actually count.

This means that a lynch is only possible if both townies are on the lynch.

Virtuoso (2/3) - drafter, oro

This would be a lynch if both me and oro were town, but it isn't, ergo either me or oro isn't town.

Drafterman (3/3) - supa, virtuoso, pie

This would be a lynch if both town were on it, but it isn't, ergo both town aren't on this lynch.

From last DP:

Grey (4/5) - oro, supa, drafter, F4

This was only a lynch because all three townies were on the lynch (that's the only way you could lynch with less than the required number of votes).

Logic

3 from (oro, supa, drafter, F4) were town.

Press flipped Town (died NP1)

2 from (oro, supa, drafter) are town

(Consequentially, everyone not on that lynch is Mafia)

So the Town team is either:

oro + supa

oro + drafter

supa + drafter

If it was me and Supa, then Virt should have been lynched as of post #6.

If it was me and oro, then Virt should have been lynched as of post #40

From a 3rd party perspective, this should imply that the town team is oro + Supa, but this is a mod mistake.

This is easily demonstrable by having oro vote me. It won't do anything because without my vote, only one other Mafioso can have their vote count (as per rule #2).

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