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@Vader
Cool.
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So I have at least 1 town on the 1v1 wagon (supa is confirmed town) just need scum to hammer it up.
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@WaterPhoenix
They could, that’s basically, option A. I just think it’s the less likely of the options.

i have a hunch...

vtl grey
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@Greyparrot
You're one vote away from being lynched. You should probably unvote.
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Unofficial Vote Count

Grey (4/8): Lunatic, Grey, Supa, Drafter

Not Voting (4/8): Press, warren, Ragnar, Water

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch

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Why is DART not letting me post
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Oh. There we go.
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The fact that a ragnar counterwagon was run up and flipped town is suspicious to me. So is Grey's assumption about who was responsible for which kill.

I'll definitely be voting within those two.


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@Greyparrot
Then again I was very confident Grey was town based on his discussion with Supa...


Grey, let's talk. Self-voting is scummy, as is your behavior at the beginning of the day. But this wagon ran up really quick and your play yesterday was super town. Why shouldn't I hammer you when you're voting for yourself?
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@Barney
You're one vote away from being lynched. You should probably unvote.

Based on this am I correct in assuming that you think Grey is town? If so, who would your preferred lynch be today?
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Thanks, Ragnar!

Official Vote Count

Grey (4/8): Lunatic, Grey, Supa, Drafter

Not Voting (4/8): Press, warren, Ragnar, Water

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch


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After re-reading his discussion with Supa I'm back to thinking Grey is town.
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@warren42
Because Grey knew the "voice and vote" thing was from the PM? I thought that too at first, but it's common verbiage that would be easy for him to catch.
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Based on this am I correct in assuming that you think Grey is town? 
So my thinking goes like this...
  • If Grey is scum, trying to lynch himself so that people lynch Lunatic tomorrow (the game of chicken they're playing), once his death reveals that he's scum no one will lynch Lunatic tomorrow.
    • Major loss for mafia, without any likely gain.
      • Technically they could both be scum, playing a long game to town confirm Lunatic.
  • If Grey is town, trying to lynch himself so that people lynch Lunatic tomorrow, once his death reveals that he's town there's a decent chance of Lunatic being lynched tomorrow.
    • If Lunatic is scum, major win for town.
    • If Lunatic is town, given some apparently repeated mislynchings lead by him (of which Grey would be the latest), certainly not a bad thing for town.
      • As an extra bonus for Grey, he gets to use it against Lunatic in future games.
So yes, I think he is more likely town than not.


If so, who would your preferred lynch be today?
I don't have any in mind. If Grey is town, killing him is a net benefit to Mafia, so any hammering should at least wait until people have had their coffee.
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@drafterman
Yeah, but he said that it wasn't a common thing to be in PMs (though it is) I don't know why he'd say that unless he actually believed it. Also the confidence with which he said Supa should know he's town.
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@warren42
After re-reading his discussion with Supa I'm back to thinking Grey is town.
Since you just had it up, would you mind giving me a link to the area it happened? I don't want to dig through all those pages looking for it.
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@Barney
It's on the first two pages
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@Lunatic
Are you tactical enough to come in on day 1 asking if scum has a night kill as scum? I feel like I almost want to townread you for it but I think you're too smart to discount the possibility of trying to get the easy townread there.
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@warren42
Keep in mind that scum could have been told the wording of towns role pms as well, many a mod have done that in the past.
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@warren42
Keep in mind that scum could have been told the wording of towns role pms as well, many a mod have done that in the past.
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@warren42
Are you tactical enough to come in on day 1 asking if scum has a night kill as scum? I feel like I almost want to townread you for it but I think you're too smart to discount the possibility of trying to get the easy townread there.
I don't know how to answer that, I was literally asking the nod a question that didn't get answered. 

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Grey admitted he was scum. He should be lynched in that basis alone.
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Grey wrote:
Unvote me doofusbreath
lol. In review, I'm pretty sure that Grey and Supa and not a scum team.
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@Lunatic
Ok so if you're mafia, you know that you get a factional kill. Right?

So if you're mafia, you know the answer to that question.

Therefore, only town should think to ask it, as it'd be a dumb question otherwise. (On MafiaUniverse this is referred to as a dumbtell, because you're oblivious to information you definitely would've had as mafia.)

As a result, I have a bit of a desire to townread you.

HOWEVER

I think it's possible you're smart enough to KNOW that such a question is a "dumbtell" and therefore smart enough to fake one.

Is that making sense?

Essentially, I think that that should be reason to townread you but I respect your abilities as scum too much to write it off as automatically town.
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@Barney
So if I just call everyone doofusbreath would that mean I can't be with any of them and are automatically town in your opinion? Cause next time I'm mafia I'll definitely use that ;)
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@Barney
 Grey and Supa and not a scum team.
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@Barney
As an extra bonus for Grey, he gets to use it against Lunatic in future games.

;)
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cutthroat cutthroat cutthroat

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I am rethinking Grey

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