I didn't ask if people do. I was implying would the argument be also correct in respect to immigration?
The argument would have some validity, but is over simplified. There are many other aspects to it. Blaming immigration is mostly a scapegoat.
Nope my statement was that Bernie is against immigration in that video yet is pro immigration now. This can clearly been seen.
What video did you watch? He is talking about being against 1 specific program related to immigration that is being abused by massive corporations. He never says he is against immigration.
Worker programs even though only 6.6% have been permanent residents are still immigrants.
If most of them are being forced back to their home country then they weren't immigrants. They were temps being used in lieu of paying workers more.
He didn't say he wants to improve it, he said he wants to remove it without an alternative.
He said he wants to remove it. He also has plans for immigration reform. That clip was just him discussing a bill he opposed. No one asked him about what his plan was. Just because a short clip doesn't show him talking about his alternative does not mean he doesn't have one.
Taxation is exploitative. A job is exploitative.
Taxation is not exploitative. You are getting services for what you are paying. You get schools, roads, firefighters. The tax codes are decided by the elected representatives of the people.
Having an outrage over a specific program is a red herring because almost everyone is exploited for their labor.
This doesn't even make sense. We can't be upset by abusive, awful programs because there are other bad things in the world? With this mindset no one should ever try to fix anything. Sanders has a wide array of plans for fixing a wide array of problems. This is one of them. There are many others.
If I am Nick Fuentes and say we need to protect our western values and people decide to take that as we should be against immigration, don't you think I am to blame for what the people who follow me believe?
I'm not familiar with him. A quick google search tells me he openly advocates hate and fear of immigrants. That is not even remotely similar to saying a specific program is deeply flawed. Some people may take Bernie's statements to mean something he didn't intend. As long as he isn't trying to leave his statements vague so they can be misinterpreted I don't see that as his fault. Nick appears to be active preaching hate and intolerance. They are not remotely similar.
Why would the Democrats do the same again and how to do you propose Bernie wins the swing states?
Bernie would win the swing states for the same reason centrists think he won't. He is a populist.
You don't win swing states by advocating for failed neo-liberal policies that have ruined lives. That is a great plan to keep people home on election day and let trump win. You win them by promising you have a vision to fix their problems and getting people out to vote. Sanders is the best positioned to do that.
First point is that we shouldn't have immigrants because they lower the wages of American workers. This is heavily implied given this very same can be used against immigration.
You are incorrect. The entire conversation they were having was about the "guest workers" program. You are trying to take 1 sentence fragment from that conversation to paint it as if that is his opinion about immigration, when he was talking about 1 specific program. You choose to believe that this shows his opinion on immigration, when that is not what he said.
I don't know precisely what his opinions on immigration were 15 years ago. maybe you are right and he was against it. But I do know that taking one sentence out of a conversation he had about a specific program and applying it to mean his opinion of the broader question of immigration is an extremely weak argument.
Second point is that we should make immigrants citizens. Meaning he doesn't care about lowering the wages of American workers.
lol his entire platform is about helping american workers. You would be extremely hard pressed to find any politician who cares more about the wages of american workers.
The idea that immigration is the reason wages are low is a distraction. It almost certainly has an impact, but pointing to it is meant to deflect criticism away from the people that actually control wages. Why blame the billionaires and oligarchs who control wages when you can blame a poor immigrant with little money or power? It is part of the game that the billionaire oligarchs play.
he is willing to lower the wages of American workers during that time and that is if he is able to pass the law not fail and continue to lower American wages.
He has a numerous plans for how to improve wages for american workers. Just because he knows that immigration is not the main problem does not mean he is somehow ok with lowering wages.