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This is a fantasy. America has had left ideas for a long time. public roads, public schools, anti-trust laws etc. People realized a long time ago the uncontrolled capitalism is a catastrophe. The problem is that people started to forget the evils it caused because left wing ideas solved the problems.

No one disagrees about public roads. Those are needed by all governments. No one is really arguing for uncontrolled capitalism. We want regulated capitalism, you want state capitalism.

When no one was burning to death because the company locked all the doors, people stopped thinking it was as important to keep those companies under control. As it became less of a priority for the public those companies started bribing politicians into letting them get away with terrible things again. So Reagan, and then virtually all politicians since then have basically full on sold out to the rich creating the train wreck of an economy we have now where the rich control everything and the poor can barely survive. People are now remembering why left wing policies were needed as the problems are all coming back. That is why the left is resurgent among young people. 

Young people are in favor of socialism because many haven't paid taxes or held jobs. They didn't grow up during the Cold War where people actually saw where that line of thought got you. 

The right wing is gaining ground, largely, because of xenophobia and fear. The idea that muslims, or mexicans, or gay couples or the EU are going to come and take things away from you. And like all fear campaigns, they are based on a grain of truth to give some credibility, then they add on tons and tons of lies to fuel it. 

Well, when you see the rise of rape and hand grenade attacks in Sweden, it would be hard to see why your ideas wouldn't be becoming less popular. I don't think I have heard about gay couples taking things away from me, except maybe sue me for not making them a cake? You're doing the exact same fear campaign about those dreadful billionaires and how they are going to run every aspect of our lives unless we have complete state control over industries.

Lol the top 10 countries in the world in military spending includes 4 members of NATO (US, France, Germany, UK) and 2 other american allies (Japan, South Korea). The idea that america is somehow protecting the free world by spending INSANE amounts of money on it's military is a lie. America could cut military spending by half and still be the #1 spender by a wide margin. You don't need to spend 100's of billions per year in order to protect your country. The US needs to do that because the military industrial complex wants to get paid and politicians are corrupt. 

Most of those countries aren't even paying their 2% to NATO. "Estonia, Greece, Poland, Latvia, Lithuania and Britain were estimated to have met the 2% goal last year." https://www.euronews.com/2019/03/14/nato-pledge-which-european-countries-spend-over-2-of-gdp-on-defence
So, we are picking up the tab for many of them. Just because some of these countries are paying more on defense doesn't mention the proportion to their GDP or if they are spending as much as they could need.

Also, notice how the socialist utopias of Sweden, Norway, etc. aren't on there. Interesting.....
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The idea that america is somehow protecting the free world by spending INSANE amounts of money on it's military is a lie.

Unless it is the Ukraine.

America could cut military spending by half and still be the #1 spender by a wide margin.


You don't need to spend 100's of billions per year in order to protect your country. The US needs to do that because the military industrial complex wants to get paid and politicians are corrupt. 
Nice Libertarian talking point.

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The idea that america is somehow protecting the free world by spending INSANE amounts of money on it's military is a lie.
Unless it is the Ukraine.
I don't believe that aid money came from the military budget. So no, america's military spending is way, way out of control. It needs to be cut down by like 40-50%

Nice Libertarian talking point.
Not wanting to spend trillions on the military isn't a talking point. It is what the majority of the country should want. You could provide all sorts of services and actually help people, but instead that money gets given to giant companies to piss away halfway around the world killing people.