Choosing Best or Likely Candidated to Win Presidency

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    1} M. Bloomberg, 77, because,

    ......1a} he is beholdend to no one,  matches and exceeds Trumps peer economic basis and support.

    .......1b} has necessary governing experience, of New York City,

    ........1c} more moderate than other canidates, and I believe that is a plus on democratic side

    ........1d} age  is a negative ifwe  discount experience, wisdom and the above,

    ........1e} name recognition etc.

    2} Amy Klobuchar, 58, ---originally my first choice til Bloomberg got in-----

    ....2c} moderate with senatorial experience, and less aggressive from a woman may play to men better,

    ....2b} age is a plus,

    ....2c} traditionally men less likely to vote in a female,

    ....2d} supporst nuclear power, but more on that at bottom --again she is moderate on most issues, tho $15.00 will scare off some independents--- I suppose $12. is a moderates compromise :--)

    3} Biden, 76,

    ........3a} experience outweighs most all else and he is male ---men like that in a president---,

    ........3b} age is negative and more so if his cognition gafs make him less charismatic,

    ........3c} recognition over Amy Klobachar and the above should make him #2 on my list, yet something nags at me to place him over Bloomberg and Amy, tho that is personal bias, not necessarily practical consideration on my part.

    4} Elizabeth Warren, 69, --my 2nd choice till Bloomberg got in---

    .....3a} female Teddy Roosevelt{ aggressive }, ----tho Tedddy lost his 2nd run after voluntary stepping aside one election,

    ......3b} more experience than Amy, but more liberal for the rich paying more ---aka a fair share--- ergo less moderate,

    ......3c} men less likely to vote in a woman.

    5}  Pete Buttigieg, 37,

    ....4a}  men vote for men, majority of men not vote for gay man,

    ....4b} young and carrys himself very well on stage and debates ergo charisma age and some experience governing but not like New York City.

    6} Steyer, 62,

    ......6a} monetary peer to Trump, ergo, --money talks--,

    ......6b} lacks charisma  ergo lack of breaking through to the other side ability,

    ......6c} age is reasonable but again, doesnt have the charisma or experience of a Buttigieg

    7} Cory Booker, 49,

    ......7a} not sure what I'm missing here ---charismatic presence i.e. lacks the oratorical presence { YES WE CAN }of an Obama type and that is important to those democrats who could not, not like Obama for any good reason.  

    8} Bernie gets honarable mention  because of his popularity. Popular vote did not get Hillary in and his non-support of existing nuclear power plants  ---people dont want get cold and will ruin the ecology long before they will worry about the the potential toxic negatives of nuclear power and its wastes etc.


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    You forgot Trump in your list. Jus sayin.
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    You forgot Trump in your list. Jus sayin.
    Ha, ha, you really think I forgot. 

    Nor did I forget other candidates, however, those mature adults in the know do not consider Trump as valid ---i.e. valid being not a mobster type criminal,  psychopathic narcissist, racist etc---.  

    Oh yeah, I'm talking to cultist Trump follower....:--(



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    What are you going to do when he wins again? Cry?

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    What are you going to do when he wins again? Cry?
    Same as  all Earthians, live on til we die.

    Seek and speak truth.

    Consider cosmic possibilities via various methods that fall within my purview of exploration.


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    1} M. Bloomberg, 77, because,

    ......1a} he is beholdend to no one,  matches and exceeds Trumps peer economic basis and support.
    so instead of taking bribes from rich people to use the government to benefit the rich, you want to cut out the middle man and just have the billionaires make the laws themselves? That is worse, not better. 

    1b} has necessary governing experience, of New York City,
    he governed it badly. i mean stop and frisk alone guarantees he couldn't win a general election. 

    1c} more moderate than other canidates, and I believe that is a plus on democratic side
    He really isn't. He is right wing economically and a left wing culture warrior. He is the worst of both sides. 


    2} Amy Klobuchar, 58, ---originally my first choice til Bloomberg got in-----
    ....2c} moderate with senatorial experience, and less aggressive from a woman may play to men better,
    but she doesn't stand for anything. She gets along with republicans and doesn't fight for anything. Those are not selling features. Those are huge handicaps. 

    2b} age is a plus,
    why?

    3} Biden, 76,

    ........3a} experience outweighs most all else and he is male ---men like that in a president---,
    again, his experience is bad. He has been wrong on most of the things he has fought for during his career. 

    .3b} age is negative and more so if his cognition gafs make him less charismatic,
    this is way under selling it. His mind is going. He regularly can't remember what state he's in, names of people (including obama), or what his policies even are. He has mood swings where if he is questioned, even the slightest bit, he yells at people and insults them. 

    5}  Pete Buttigieg, 37,
    pete is an empty suit. he stands for nothing. He believes in nothing but his own career. He was pro medicare for all like 9 months ago. now he won't stop attacking it. He used to campaign against big dollar donors (when he didn't have any). How he is fully in favor of the rich buying politicians. He looks to be about as sleazy a politician as they come. 

    6} Steyer, 62,
    lol has he ever cracked 1 or 2 percent?

    8} Bernie gets honarable mention  because of his popularity. 

    bernie is, by a wide margin, the best candidate. He has an energetic and diverse base. He has plans on how to fix the fundamental problems in america and not just slap a bandaid on it. 

    Popular vote did not get Hillary in
    Hilary lost because she was a bad candidate who didn't speak to most people. She couldn't grow the base. She tried running a campaign like it was still the 90's and it blew up in her face. Berie DOES increase the base. The majority of the country isn't particularly happy with either the republican or the democratic establishment. That is why trump was able to crush the republicans running against him in 2016. Running a campaign about trying to go back to the obama years is a strategy doomed to fail. Obama's presidency set the groundwork for trump to rise. Trying to go back to that failure is not a winning strategy. 

     and his non-support of existing nuclear power plants  ---people dont want get cold and will ruin the ecology long before they will worry about the the potential toxic negatives of nuclear power and its wastes etc.
    Nuclear energy creates toxic waste that takes a very, very long time degrade. And if it isn't stored properly can kill alot of people. Why would you prioritize that over energy sources that don't create toxic waste?



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    Nuclear energy creates toxic waste that takes a very, very long time degrade. And if it isn't stored properly can kill alot of people. Why would you prioritize that over energy sources that don't create toxic waste?

    This is so wrong. There's clear scientific data (and we have a LOT of it from 60 years of nuclear power) that EVERY source other than nuclear, including solar, has cause more deaths per megawatt produced BY FAR than nuclear power. Even Hydro.
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    This is so wrong. There's clear scientific data (and we have a LOT of it from 60 years of nuclear power) that EVERY source other than nuclear, including solar, has cause more deaths per megawatt produced BY FAR than nuclear power. Even Hydro.
    please provide sources for your conspiracy theories. 


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    Why? You don't seem even remotely interested in the subject.
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    Not to mention a simple google search for mortality per kilowatt-hour brings up all the data. Surely you're not that ignorant or lazy.
    ................................................. Mortality Rate (deaths/trillionkWhr)
    Coal – global average         .....100,000    (41% global electricity)
    Coal – China                        .... 170,000   (75% China’s electricity)
    Coal – U.S.                               10,000    (32% U.S. electricity)
    Oil                                              36,000    (33% of energy, 8% of electricity)
    Natural Gas                               4,000    (22% global electricity)
    Biofuel/Biomass                   ..... 24,000    (21% global energy)
    Solar (rooftop)                            440    (< 1% global electricity)
    Wind                                           150    (2% global electricity)
    Hydro – global average       .....   1,400    (16% global electricity)
    Hydro – U.S.                                5    (6% U.S. electricity)
    Nuclear – global average             90    (11%  global electricity w/Chern&Fukush)
    Nuclear – U.S.                              0.1    (19% U.S. electricity)

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    Not to mention a simple google search for mortality per kilowatt-hour brings up all the data. Surely you're not that ignorant or lazy.
    You are making the claim. You need to be able to back up that claim with evidence or I am going to call you on your bullshit. You have many times in the past said things that were outright lies that you had no evidence for. 

    So provide a source or I will continue to ignore your conspiracy theories. 

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    Like I said, you're not even remotely interested enough in the subject to break a sweat on a google search.
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    Like I said, you're not even remotely interested enough in the subject to break a sweat on a google search.
    I'm not interested enough to do your research for you, no. If you want to make claims in a discussion, be able to back them up or don't make them. 


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    Your intellectual apathy is impressive.
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    Step 1: Look at this data on Google
    Step 2: Stuff conspiracy in your ears.
    Step 3: ???
    Step 4: Profit.
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    Your intellectual apathy is impressive
    Step 1: Look at this data on Google
    Step 2: Stuff conspiracy in your ears.
    Step 3: ???
    Step 4: Profit.

    lol that is just sad. If you want people to take you seriously, you need to be able to back up what you say. You throw out ridiculous, bald faced lies and then expect me to go trying to disprove them. Then when I do that, you change the topic and throw out more lies. 

    Prove the things you are saying are true, or I will ignore them as the lies they probably are. 
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    I did prove it true. You're just too lazy to type the words "mortality per kilowatt-hour" into a google search. You can select the most biased one that pops up, even from CNN.

    But let's be honest, you really don't give a fuck about anything that challenges your status quo, even if it's from a google search with biased sources in your favor.

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    Step 1: There exists Oxygen and CO2 in the Oceans.
    Step 2: Conspiracy.
    Step 3: ???
    Step 4: Profit.

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    Bernie is a socialist trying to be cool with the kids bc he is a grandpa. Bernie is nothing but a purebred idiot
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    So Bernie's just like Donald then?
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    Trump is going to win. It was the desperation of democrats to destroy Trump that will be their undoing. 

    That is what I think.

    They would have had better chances if they didn't invest so much energy into hating the president. It makes them look really desperate, weak, and incompetent.




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    so instead of taking bribes from rich people to use the government to benefit the rich, you want to cut out the middle man and just have the billionaires make the laws themselves? That is worse, not better. 
    Because of Trumpism I choose Bloomberg over the rest.  Again the age bothers me, since 78 is average for 1st world man.

    Compared to trump Bloomberg is a saint.  Sorry you cant see that.

    but she doesn't stand for anything. She gets along with republicans and doesn't fight for anything. Those are not selling features. Those are huge handicaps.
    She stand as pargamatic midwesterner female with senatorial experience and not near end of her life i.e health is not lilely to be an issue as with Bernie or Bloombberg

    this is way under selling it. His mind is going. He regularly can't remember what state he's in, names of people (including obama), or what his policies even are. He has mood swings where if he is questioned, even the slightest bit, he yells at people and insults them. 
    He is my #3 and I take him over Warren because of the reasons as mentioned EXPERIENCE.  True he doesn't carry his age as well as Bloomberg appears to.

    You skipped over Warren so she must be your #1 choice. { YES WE WILL }  I understand that.   Female Teddy Roosevelt i.e. rough riding woman.

    I like Amy also cause Hillary didnt get in and I want a woman in there as soon as possible.  No she doesnt have any { YES WE CAN } charisma  to speak of. 

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    Bernie is a socialist trying to be cool with the kids bc he is a grandpa. Bernie is nothing but a purebred idiot
    there was nothing useful at all in that statement. he is a democratic socialist, yes. He is "cool with kids" because they have grown up watching the failures of capitalism play out. They see how unregulated capitalism is destroying the middle class and focusing all the wealth at the very top. 
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    Because of Trumpism I choose Bloomberg over the rest.
    Why? Trump has abused his office to increase his own wealth. Bloomberg is likely to do the same. He has already ordered his news agency to not give him any negative coverage.

    Compared to trump Bloomberg is a saint.  Sorry you cant see that.
    I didn't say he wasn't better than trump. He obviously is. But he is nowhere near as good as most of the rest of the field of democrats. And certainly no where near as good as sanders. 

    She stand as pargamatic midwesterner female with senatorial experience and not near end of her life i.e health is not lilely to be an issue as with Bernie or Bloombberg
    this is the problem. That statement tells me absolutely nothing about what she stands for. Is she going to tackle income inequality? the environment? foreign wars? What are her priorities? She never really says. All she keeps saying is

    1) "i'm from the midwest and that is important" (for some reason)
    2) "I have gotten lots of bills passed". (But since many of them were useless or bad, that is irrelevant)
    3) "I can work with people who want to screw you over" (republicans). But that is at best dangerous and at worst terrible. Being able to compromise with republicans means she is perfectly willing to not do what her party and the people want to try to win over corrupt assholes trying to screw over the working class. 

    This is why I said she doesn't stand for anything. She is all platitudes about "unity" and "working together" but doesn't seem to care about what we would work together to do. Sanders and, to a lesser extent, Warren are very clear about what they want to fight for. 

    He is my #3 and I take him over Warren because of the reasons as mentioned EXPERIENCE.
    but his experience is a negative. He was for the iraq war. He pushed reagan to tougher on drug addicts and helped to create mass incarceration. He has been wrong about most major issues his entire career. 

    You skipped over Warren so she must be your #1 choice. { YES WE WILL }  I understand that.   Female Teddy Roosevelt i.e. rough riding woman.
    I skipped her because your points about her weren't particularly useful. I think sanders is, by a wide margin, the best candidate. Warren is also good. But I honestly don't see how anyone could call her "rough riding". She is a Harvard professor and she acts like it. 

     like Amy also cause Hillary didnt get in and I want a woman in there as soon as possible.  No she doesnt have any { YES WE CAN } charisma  to speak of. 
    This is also a major problem. You want to support candidates based on their identity, not on their policy. Identity politics is dumb. I mean there were multiple black candidates in the race but virtually all black people supported 1 of 2 white men. The idea that you should vote for a candidate based on their race or gender is deeply flawed. It is a distraction to allow flawed candidates to get elected even though their ideas are bad. Buttigieg does it too, he hides behind being gay to try to distract from what a horrible hypocrite he is. 
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    Bernie is a socialist
    Trump is a capitalist

    Trump doesn’t try to be cool, he is genuinely cool
    Bernie tries to be cool by streaming on Twitch and that stuff