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He clearly said not just trump, meaning also clinton,....
I know.

...where the Republicans voted to impeach along party lines.
Clinton WAS guilty, he confessed on national TV. Republicans voted on the facts, not party lines.

Trump may have been impeached along party lines, but he was also aquitted along party lines,
Because he wasn't guilty. Unlike Clinton, there was no stained dress or national confession.

From dems to repubs, their choices were dictated by politics, not justice.
No sir. The republicans vote on Clinton was dictated by the facts, provided by Clinton himself. It was the democrats who voted along party line, with no evidence.

Are you so obsessed with partisanship and political one liners it is blinding you?
I see facts, not biased desire, just like in the Kavenaugh case, Democrats have zero evidence and are willing to bypass due process and convict on accusations only.

The impeachment cases were not the same.
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There were plenty of dresses for trump, the arguments were that those dresses were not a "high crime or misdemeanor." Getting a blowjob, successful or not, is neither high crime, nor misdemeaner. Trump's accusations were far more serious. Clinton's impeachment was a political joke. You cant twist logic to fit convenience. Thats called hypocrisy.
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There were plenty of dresses for trump,...
I saw none brought into evidence.

...the arguments were that those dresses were not a "high crime or misdemeanor." 
I did not see Trump's side refer to any dress. There was no evidence of any crime, unless you count TDS as "evidence".

...a blowjob, successful or not, is neither high crime, nor misdemeaner. 
Clinton was not tried for getting a blowjob, he was tried for lying to congress.

Trump's accusations were far more serious.
Thank God we still have Republicans who will not convict on accusations alone. First Judge Kavenaugh, then Trump. Democrats seem to believe accusations should be enough for convictions.

Clinton's impeachment was a political joke. You cant twist logic to fit convenience. That's called hypocrisy.
This is your opinion. Clinton CONFESSED on national TV. He was not removed from office because the American people did not want him removed, but he was guilty. His confession was proof. Trump was not guilty, democrats had no evidence, but wanted him removed. The American people saw through that sham.

Hypocrisy is what the Democrats have done, and are still doing. We will fix that this November.
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Will you fix it by voting for a numpty that thinks suggesting to a World audience that the consumption of household disinfectant might be a solution to the coronavirus problem, is what it takes to be a President. 

Yep you probably will.

Though on reflection and in comparison to a lot of his forebears. he hasn't made any notable World affecting cock-up decisions.

i suppose that we should  be grateful for Melania and also that he doesn't have a sister like Kim Yo-jong.

As they say....Behind every good man.
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So, you'd rather vote for a Joe Biden who says he will beat Joe Biden? For a Joe Biden who declares his pleasure of children sitting in his lap and rubbing his hairy legs in a pool? For a Joe Biden whose hands on shoulders of girls and women to support his erect stature while sniffing their hair? A Joe Biden who declares on tape that "the son of a bitch was fired" after threat of withholding $1B from Ukraine? A Joe Biden who faces his stage left, and walks off stage, during a basement chat? A Joe Biden who confuses his wife with his sister? A Joe Biden who, left without a tele-prompt, can't string two words together? Yes, I guess you would.
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I guess your caught between a rock and a hard place then....Having to decide which one is the least perverse, corrupt and stupid.

Why, out of a population of 327million people does the U.S. struggle to find a decent Presidential candidate. Perhaps there just isn't such a thing, given what it takes to become a presidential candidate, that is to say, rather a lot of money...Some might say dodgy money, though I wouldn't begin to presume.

And why do the American people keep voting for them.....I think that it's what's referred to as outsheeping the sheep.....Baaaah.....Same here in the U.K....Same the world over.

People is as people do.
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imo you have a group addicted to government, dependant, others cherish freedom and independence.  unfortunately it seems there's more people who do not cherish freedom and independence so we have the presidential choices we have rather than a more libertarian one.  that's a big part of it, not all, but a big part imo.
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Agreed.
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So, you'd rather vote for a Joe Biden who says he will beat Joe Biden? For a Joe Biden who declares his pleasure of children sitting in his lap and rubbing his hairy legs in a pool? For a Joe Biden whose hands on shoulders of girls and women to support his erect stature while sniffing their hair? A Joe Biden who declares on tape that "the son of a bitch was fired" after threat of withholding $1B from Ukraine? A Joe Biden who faces his stage left, and walks off stage, during a basement chat? A Joe Biden who confuses his wife with his sister? A Joe Biden who, left without a tele-prompt, can't string two words together?
yes.
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A Joe Biden who, left without a tele-prompt, can't string two words together? 
Trump, with teleprompter, struggles to form a single coherent sentence at all. 

^ This is not an exaggeration I am saying literally a 'single coherent sentence'.
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A Joe Biden who faces his stage left, and walks off stage, during a basement chat? A Joe Biden who confuses his wife with his sister?
Trump has both been outright rude, unorthodox and furthermore so forgetful that he can't even type Tweets right with a professional publicist begging him to let him/her edit his Tweets pre-post. The amount of times he's written or said things that not just make no sense but are flat-out wrong is only rivalled by George W. Bush Jr., who I honestly believe had/has verbal dyspraxia.
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Your posts 85/86 point to typical media barbs hurled at Trump. Old news that is not news. Yes, I've hurled barbs at joe Biden, but I'm quoting him; you do not quote Trump. You've offered the same tired arguments the media mob hurl. Some originality would be refreshing. Funny thing, Biden does the same, but offers no platform of good ideas. just Trump bombs. That's all Hillarious Balloon Girl did, and even Dems got tired of it. People say Hillary votes were really votes against Trump, as if the same was not true on the other side.
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Hello, do you think saying something is a 'media hurled barb' makes it even 1% less true? No.
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 People say Hillary votes were really votes against Trump, as if the same was not true on the other side.
Well, anyone with a well functioning brain could tell that unless you were filthy rich and caucasian, Trump was the worse choice just by analysing their manifestos and history.

Not sure what you mean here, obviously votes for Hillary were votes against Trump, what's shocking is that some people who supported Bernie voted Trump to spite Hillary. That's real immaturity with the 18+ right to vote.
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And everyone is forgetting it is the Russians who tooted Don'sTrumpet near the end, to Hillarys demise.

She won the popular vote because she was more popular than the narrcist { I }Don Trumpet.

He alone will fix it, what ever it his ego needs, to be fixed. That ethang is immature, irrational, illogical lacks common sense and moral integrity,  is not new  news. 




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He’s not even American, no use arguing with him. He’s entitled to his opinion, but he can’t legally act on it.
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Will you fix it by voting for a numpty that thinks suggesting to a World audience that the consumption of household disinfectant might be a solution to the coronavirus problem, is what it takes to be a President. 
Yep you probably will.
So many errors...
1. Trump is not a numpty.
2. He did not say consumption of household disinfectant might be a solution to the coronavirus.
3. He is already President.
4. Your opinion is not fact.

Though on reflection and in comparison to a lot of his forebears. he hasn't made any notable World affecting cock-up decisions.
No. All the doom and gloom predictions of the liberal left (you) have been proven wrong. But as we know, reality doesn't affect your adherence to dogma.

i suppose that we should  be grateful for Melania and also that he doesn't have a sister like Kim Yo-jong.
I'm grateful that he got the deadbeat Europeans to pay their fair share for their own defence, and for getting minority unemployment to go down, and for defending religious rights, and for curbing immigration of terrorists and criminals into the country, and for exposing the deep state, and for putting people with functioning brains on the Supreme Court. Oh, and I quite like Melania too.

As they say....Behind every good man.
That good man will be re-elected in Nov. And you liberal snowflakes will have another round of teeth gnashing. It will be fun!
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2. He did not say consumption of household disinfectant might be a solution to the coronavirus.
???

What is your interpretation of this then?

"And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning?
"So it'd be interesting to check that."

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It needs no interpretation if one is TDS free.

Trump said, "...can do something like that.." Something like what?
"knocks" out the virus inside the body.

Who wouldn't want something that knocks out the virus inside the body? How is it terrible to wonder about that?

He did not say to ingest disinfectant. He even said "with a doctor" under medical supervision. Everything Trump says is twisted by libtards using the most asinine interpretations, and the sane majority of the nation just laughs at their derangement.

Heard about the crime spree in several US cities? Trump told us about that coming. Libtards called him silly then too. November is coming. Liberals are dumb, and full of terrors.
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Yep, will be another fun packed and amusing 4 years.

And apologies, I didn't realise you were deaf......If you could hear some of the dumb ass stuff that Donald comes out with you would be in stitches also.
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Yep, will be another fun packed and amusing 4 years.
Do liberals usually cry and moan at fun packed and amusing things?

And apologies, I didn't realise you were deaf.....
No worries, I don't hold your IQ against you either.

If you could hear some of the dumb ass stuff that Donald comes out with you would be in stitches also.
Oh, we are all laughing. Only in November, some of you laughing now will realize that we were laughing AT you.

An un-pc President, and perpetually outraged liberal progressive snowflakes. It'll be like a 4 year Christmas holiday!
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Don't get me wrong....Despite all his shenanigans and gaffs, his ineffectiveness is perhaps something to be grateful for.....Let's hope that things continue that way.

Kanye West next time....Hey?
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I was asking a sarcastic, & a very sarcastic question, to the reporters in the room about disinfectant on the inside. But it does kill it.
Does this quote from Trump change your previous interpretation?
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Why would it?

Look man. I don't really care that you have TDS. And I know the futility of trying to get a liberal suffering under TDS to actually answer questions in order to show him how he's deranged.

I'm not a progressive liberal, so I do not need people with different political beliefs than me to change. You are welcome to eat meat, or sugar. I don't want you to stop smoking, I don't want to take away your guns. I do not want to force you to pay for abortions. I do not want to force you to refer to men as "she". You are welcome to my college campus to speak on any topic you like.

Trump has trolled you guys for nearly 4 years, and you're so wrapped up in your social justice warriorhood, you don't get it. He's clowning you. Stop trying to clone everyone into little liberal lemmings. People will resist looniness.
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Well your previous post seems to claim that Trump's statements around injections referred to something in general that could "knock out the virus inside the body" rather than disinfectants specifically.

However Trump's later quote seems to show that disinfectants on the inside was the correct interpretation.