Idio-umps Swamp Is Large

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  • mustardness
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    Ok so Manafort has chose to cooperate to lessen his sentencing.  Why is he charged with anything?

    He is not a swamp type person is he?  Is Flynn or any the other Trumpanzees truly swamp-people?

    Idio-ump promised to drain swamp, reverse roe vs wade via supreme court and be as anti-immgrant as possible.

    I think some do not understand the differrence between a moral and immoral swamp.

    I think some do not care that there is a differrence between swamp of immoral mafia-like thugs/bullies, criminals and those who play politics to get this or that biil passed.
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    I'd like to see washington DC get back to running the country like the post office and the DMV.
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    My father just didn’t want to have the distraction looming over the campaign,

    Sounds like he did drain it and get rid of him. And then unlike any administration before him was able to do. Manafort was prosecuted under Trump's DOJ. Sounds like he got flushed successfully, no?
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    I'd like to see washington DC get back to running the country like the post office and the DMV.

    Are those managing post office and DMV mafia-type thugs who surround them selves with mafia-type thugs that aka swamp people?

    Do these managers lie everyday after day after day, even a 10th as much as idio-ump? No. Yeah I didnt think so, because most likely their not narcissists syndrome like idio-ump.

    GP, please share when you have something of significant relevance to the idio-ump draning the swamp. OMG please!

    Maybe those two first republicans to support idio-ump, that are from CA and both  are now also be charged with crimes. Are they swamp people also?

    My guess is they are.  How many people have people have left idio-umps side because of their immoral actions? I think it is more than you, I or anyone here at DArt can keep track of.  30, 40 50 have come and gone for immoral reasons?

    GP, do you even no what a swamp is?  Whatever you thought it was, it got ten times worse when idio-ump began his campagin for president and to this day.  Who will be next to go for their immoral actions?
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    Sounds like he did drain it and get rid of him. And then unlike any administration before him was able to do. Manafort was prosecuted under Trump's DOJ. Sounds like he got flushed successfully, no?

    Huhh? First off your comments in #3 are not my comments so your quote is incorrrect.

    Yeah many of idio-umps people have gotten flushed for crimes and/or other immoral actions.

    30, 40 50 or more idio-ump people have come an gone for nefarious immoral reasons? Yes? No?

    Including the first two republicans to come out in support of idio-ump. They are charged with crimes also.

    How sick is it to reverse roe vs wade? Sincerely dude, These republicans are some sick nutcase people.

    Need I go on and on.  These nutcase republlicans are as bad or worse than those who stood by Nixon side until the end of his reign and beyond.


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    Yes, that's right. Let the paranoia and susceptibility to wild conspiracy theories flow within you. Because this is totally conducive to a healthy democracy.
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    I swear, American politics has become like a contest between two enraged, dumb gorillas looking to see who can shriek the loudest.
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    Poo flingers.
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    It really is quite simple:

    1. Donald Trump, being a political outsider, lacking the key connections that many veteran congressmen have made over the course of decades, and running on a platform which was universally panned by the elites, had to rely upon fellow political outsiders to help him run his campaign, and then his government. These outsiders, of course, sometimes were outsiders for good reason, because they were people of suspect character. But Trump didn't know or care; he just went with whoever was willing to work with him, which was not an extensive list. Perhaps many of these people, seizing opportunity when it presented itself, took the initiative of approaching Trump first and offering to serve in X position/capacity, and he unwisely accepted.

    2. Given that Trump has been accused of colluding with the Russians, and that there's a "special counsel" breathing down his neck and looking into every person closely connected to Trump, we know what the dirt on these people are, and this is also why some of them were prosecuted and convicted in the first place. On the other hand, the likes of Obama did not have to deal with an FBI investigation into their day to day activities. So if there was widespread corruption within the Obama Administration, we simply would not know. We have info on the former but not the latter, so to claim that one had a problem with systemic corruption whereas the other did not cannot rightfully be concluded.

    3. Defining "the swamp" as the President's cabinet is a very narrow way of looking at it. When Trump said "drain the swamp", he did not mean "audit and investigate all the Obama era staffers". The Swamp as Trump used the term can be seen more as an overarching narrative of a massive web of connections between individuals employed in the public and private sectors, in Congress, the media, academia, lobbyist organizations, PACs, and big corporations, with corrupt and self-serving motives that drive them to collaborate (or "collude") for nefarious purposes. The most readily apparent form of this is the collusion between Democratic politicians and the people who for arbitrary reasons we blindly trust to tell us the news and what is/isn't factual, despite the fact that theirs is a private enterprise largely unregulated by the government, with no federal ethics committees to punish them should they print blatant falsehoods (that is, there is no moral distinction between them and the big scary oil giants who you think conspired with Dick Cheney to oppress those good ole' peace loving Iraqis).
    It was stupid of Trump to insinuate that he could dismantle this network, but acknowledging its existence is a big first step towards diminishing its grip on our country.
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    swear, American politics has become like a contest between two enraged, dumb gorillas looking to see who can shriek the loudest.

    Yeah iidio-ump is "dumb:"  as is many of his Trumpanzees and their immoral, liars,k mafia-type thugs and bullies.  Your obviously of these truths. Why?

    You like to see women getting abortions in alleys, back of cars, and other non-clinical settings?

    You like presidents who lie constantly every day after day after day?

    You like presients whose narcissim takes precdent over integrity of USA demoracy ex his placing Putins hacks above our claims of our security peoeples?

    Your prefer a president whose rehotoric encourages violence angaisnt his enermy of the people/state?

    You prefer  his support of white nationalist reacist bigoted violent nutcases?

    The list goes on an on that you ignore ergo I agree that you politics is dumb and worse, if go along with idio-ump and act like an immoral Trumpanzee. 
    Lock Trumpanzees away, far away!
    Lock Them Away! Lock Them Away!




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    So if there was widespread corruption within the Obama Administration, we simply would not know. We have info on the former but not the latter, so to claim that one had a problem with systemic corruption whereas the other did not cannot rightfully be concluded

    -Using the IRS to target conservative advocacy groups? You do remember the scores of conservative PAC's that had their assets frozen and weren't able to use any of them leading up to the 2012 election due to being audited, right? 

    -Lying by omission to a FISA court and using a sham dossier bought and paid for by the Clinton campaign. Money that was shuffled through a law firm to hide its origins? In part produced by a foreign agent who had already been ejected from being an asset to law enforcement?

    -Never holding a FISA hearing on the Carter Page Warrants

    -Comey getting busted with purposely leaking information to the press, along now with Strzok messages that denote a "media leak strategy"

    -Clearing a person before even truly investigating, and brushing the e-mails found on Anthony Wierners laptop under the rug, and as has come out, not even reviewing them fully, or even a significant portion.(a couple thousand out of tens of thousands). Later on finding out of course his, "we have there beautiful programs that can remove duplicates. They do, he never used it tho, he barely reviewed them whatsoever.

    There is paying hush money to keep an extramarital affair quiet(something that has never actually reached a conviction. The closest case was Edwards when he got busted cheating on his wife who was suffering from cancer. The trial was a hung jury and the case was drppped. Which, the defense he used was that it was a personal expense, not campaign finance, cause well, hiding extramarital affairs is what quite alot of cheaters do, and NDA's and hush money paid, completely legal actions to be taken. 

    But digressing, there is a sham campaign finance violation in which no case with similar circumstances has ever lead to a conviction, and rarely leads to prosecution or charges, then there's all the aforementioned. Basically, I challenge you and anyone else to keep confidential documents in private servers in your house, and not be sitting in prison for a loooong time. There are already plenty of individuals who are for far less. And you wonder why people say the system is rigged?

    The corruption is right in front of you, you just gotta take off the blinders, cause guarantee if any of this happened under a conservative admin, you would be screaming corruption till you lost your voice. 

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    Grand Juries already been convened on the FISA warrants regarding Carter Page. McCabe, Strzok, Comey, etc. all have targets on their backs from the clearly politically motivated abuses of the FISA process.

    Like Trump said in a recent rally in Montana, "let's see if they keep getting away with it 😏" cause the walls are closing in on the people involved, and they're closing in quick. Once Sessions is removed after the mid terms, you can expect the DoJ to start moving full speed ahead on this process 😏. 
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    "You like to see women getting abortions in alleys, back of cars, and other non-clinical settings?"

     Yes, the same as I'd like to see serial killers have to act in secret and risk leaving evidence or otherwise getting caught than to live in a society where serial killers are allowed to openly practice their vile craft with impunity.
    Abortion is probably the single most barbaric practice ever seen in human history. It puts female genital mutilation, slavery, segregation, child rape, cannibalism, etc. to shame, no question about it. It had no rightful place in the 20th or 19th centuries, much less the 21st. It's what we'd expect to see in the darkest, most backward parts of Africa, and yet people like you want to ensure that abortion continues in the United States of America, one of the world's most advanced and enlightened nations. It makes no sense why any "progressive" party would ever support abortion, but apparently they do, and they all have blood on their hands as a result.

    That we might have for President a spoiled, billionaire playboy who has a troubled relationship with the truth is a small price to pay to liberate our land from this last vestige of the stone age.


    "You like presidents who lie constantly every day after day after day?"

     I also have to dispute the degree to which it is alleged that Donald Trump tells lies. Most of the figures we have come from the "fact checking" done by journalists  employed by big media companies (90℅ of which are owned by 6 larger corporations), which clearly have a vested interest in making the President look as bad as possible. Their factchecking process takes place outside the watchful eye of the general public; we have no idea what goes into that, and there is virtually zero accountability to make them be entirely truthful. Especially if they don't allow dissenting media groups like Fox News to observe their process there's nobody to call them out on BS. We just have to trust that they are not lying to us. So I'd take the "Donald Trump lies constantly" narrative with a grain of salt.


    "You like presients whose narcissim takes precdent over integrity of USA demoracy ex his placing Putins hacks above our claims of our security peoeples?"

    Seeing as how from day one the Left has used the allegations of Russian collusion to question the very legitimacy of Trump's presidency, and that they'd use any open admission on his part as an excuse to impeach him, should anyone really be surprised by this? Would ANY President not deny the allegations under such circumstances?


    "You prefer his support of white nationalist reacist bigoted violent nutcases?"

    Besides the fact that they're not generally anymore violent than their Antifa counterparts, it's natural that the ascendancy of any President would embolden those with a more radical version of his views. I'm sure that there were a lot of communists celebrating in the wake of Obama's 2008 victory.
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    Mustard...."You like to see women getting abortions in alleys, back of cars, and other non-clinical settings?"

    Swag.... Yes, the same as I'd like to see serial killers have to act in secret and risk leaving evidence or otherwise getting caught than to live in a society where serial killers are allowed to openly practice their vile craft with impunity.

    Your a sick-n-the-head dude and like many Trumpanzee repubilican may need to be locked away. Far away from rest of society as you apparrently have not moral respect for pregnant mothers body. Sad :-( nutcases like you are serious potential danger to society in whole. YIKES!

    Seeing as how from day one the Left has used the allegations of Russian collusion to question the very legitimacy of Trump's presidency, and that they'd use any open admission on his part as an excuse to impeach him, should anyone really be surprised by this? Would ANY President not deny the allegations under such circumstances?
    Not just collusion dude. Lies { most significant{{ barring the pentagon papers }} and most ever } corruptions, crimes, bullying, disrespect of women, disrespect of mothers ---like you--- disrepect of immigrant families.

    The so called witch-hunt just nabbed another 'witch' name Manafort.  Call all these bullies, mafia-thug bullies witches or call them swamp creatures,  they have no place in a civilized society and need to be locked away.

    The rest of you acceptance/valdiating white nationalist violence is further signs you have some moral issues that are potential danger to society in whole.  Sad :--(
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    Sessions needs to go. Could you imagine Gowdy as AG?
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    Sessions needs to go. Could you imagine Gowdy as AG?
    Southern mister McGoo should never have been hired in first place.

    Blame idio-ump for that error and the rest of his mafia-like bullying and corrupt thugs aka witches found via an allgededge witch hunt.

    This swamp is rich and deep and we havent event gotten to his family members yet. Nor idio-umps taxes.





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    Blame idio-ump for that error and the rest of his mafia-like bullying and corrupt thugs aka witches found via an allgededge witch hunt

    The investigation was opened to determine if the Trump campaign colluded with Russia. So far 4 people have been convicted of crimes having nothing to do with that. Someone from Manaforts circle has already indicated his co-operation has nothing to do with collusion, there is no evidence. Ergo his co-operation likely has to do with his previous ties to a Ukranian lobbying firm and who else was involved(ex: John Podesta). 

    It's a witch hunt because the purpose of the investingation is and has been drawing zeroes on the Russian collusion, and they've gone off the rails into areas having nothing to do with that, all to get at Trump, with zero credible evidence being present that such collusion was occurring. 

    Trump was a political outsider, he hired Manafort because he had been a GoP insider since Bush Jr. Ah yes, how corrupt, hiring people with the expectation that they will act in accordance with the law. This whole "omg he lied" shit is BS. Clinton perjured himself, an actual crime, and that wasn't sufficient for removal from office. Obama committed campaign finance violations(lack of disclosing) to the tune of millions, not just thousands, and got a 370k fine. Which I have no problem with and feel he shouldn't of been fined at all, campaign finance laws imho are a violation of the first amendment, spending money and donating being forms of expression protected therein. 

    But regardless, the corruption of the justice system and FBI is overwhelmingly stemming from the Obama administration, because all of the above, happened under his watch, due to people he appointed. "The swamp" being the Trump admin is delusional and ignorant of what is already out in the open. 

    I can hear the buttholes pucker as it's become clear Trump will be declassifying everything to do with the FISA warrants, texts and emails of Ohr, Strzok, and Lisa Paige, and quite a bit else to do with the Mueller investigation. 

    How absolutely corrupt of Trump, pushing forward full steam on declassifying these things and making them available for everyone to see.

    I totally forgot how corrupt transparency is... gtfoh with that nonsense

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    Sessions needs to go. Could you imagine Gowdy as AG?

    Gowdy would be a great AG from what I've seen. He's been on the house intelligence oversight committee for a little over a year, and he plans on not running for his house rep. seat next time around. Seems he might actually be in a prime position for the job. 

    Sessions hasn't been terrible, the main issue is he is doing jack all about any of this plain and obvious corruption and has had to be called out on it to even approve a grand jury. Basically, he's protecting the corrupt deep state, and that can't be happening. Gowdy would be on that shit like white on rice though, just like he was all over Strzok and decimated him when Strzok appeared before the committee.

    Btw, what other times in US history have you seen the director of the FBI get fired, a lead investigator fired, and numerous other top agents landing themselves in extremely hot water due to clearly corrupt and abusive practices within the DoJ and FBI? People wanna say Trump paying off a stripper to keep quiet about an affair is bad... that's miniscule frijoles compared to.whats steadily being uncovered the more people dig into this. 

    Oh btw, the non partisan Judicial Watch organization? They already smell blood in the water, and have been on this for a loooong time, and they're not gonna stop until some people land in jail over this. It's beautiful seeing the walls close in on these snakes. 

    Btw, everyone is so focused on Russia, that the fact that Google executives sent emails ordering employees to do  everything it can to get Clinton elected, the recent leaked video of their internal conference where they outright declared they would do anything in their power to operate against "oppression" aka "conservative viewpoints". Shadowbans, ratio'ing, etc. all proven extensively. It can't have meant actual oppression, considering Google is in the bed with China and helps the Chinese government to censor material and track citizens. Certainly clear oppression, yet they help with it. So as stated, oppression doesn't actually mean oppression, as has been the case for awhile, and as is evidence by the outted practices of these companies, it means censoring conservative viewpoints, 

    Sure, let's worry about fake news on Facebook, and ignore that Facebook, Twitter, Google, the lot of these giant tech companies, were, and continue to do far more to interfere with elections and the political discourse than faked news articles ever will. But of course, as always with Leftists, corruption and censorahip is ok so long as that corruption and censorship favors their viewpoints. But, listen for the buttholes puckering, because the EU, US, and Canada are already moving on removing the exemption these companies receive from publishing tort on the condition they operate as open forum. The banning of Alex Jones tipped the scales on that one and forced legislators hands. The hammer is coming in the form of a wave of lawsuits that potentially will bury these companies. Cause once the exemptions are removed, everyone and theirom can sue them for defamation stemming from any particular individuals post. Want to act like a publisher, prepare to deal with the law like a publisher does, and that means getting ready to open up ur pocketbook for spanderous and libelous content 😂😂




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    Trust in the government is at an all time low. It's at a breaking point where people will no longer trust the ballot box to keep them safe and prosperous. The swamp has no problems sacrificing democracy to save their own hides.
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    Trump just ordered Feds to declassify a bunch of documents today regarding the FISA warrants, texts, emails, and more 👌💯. They'll need to be reviewed first, but they're coming, and members of House Intel Committee, and really any representative, can make public any documents they want on the house floor with impugnity(ex: Feinstein making public 6k pages of documents detailing the use of torture.)

    Transparency 👌

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    From Schiff's reaction, this can only mean really bad things for the swamp. 
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    The swamp has no problems sacrificing democracy to save their own hides.
    The idio-ump swamp to be specific. What a bunch of cruel sic- n-the-head humans.

    They love Putin and Kim Ung Poo and idio-ump. Sad :---(

    They encourage hacking destrution of of USA  demorcary via their immoral actions.

    It is purely greed and power for them.



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    So Cohen and  Manafort cooperating with Muller.

    Republicans who supported FBI investigation in 90s now refuse to have FBI investigation into Kavenaugh vs Ford issue.

    Trumpanzees and ego are great danger to USA and humanity.

    This is largest swamp of disgusting immoral humans infesting white house and congress.

    Lock them Away! Lock Them Far Away! Lock Them Away Today!
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    Coo coo!
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    Ok so Manafort has chose to cooperate to lessen his sentencing.  Why is he charged with anything?

    Trumpanzees believe their moral people. If we cant believe a Trumpanzee who can we believe?

    He is not a swamp type person is he?  Is Flynn or any the other Trumpanzees truly swamp-people?

    Idio-ump promised to drain swamp, reverse roe vs wade via supreme court and be as anti-immgrant as possible.

    I think some do not understand the differrence between a moral and immoral swamp.

    I think some do not care that there is a differrence between swamp of immoral mafia-like thugs/bullies, criminals and those who play politics to get this or that biil passed.