Iowa Caucus Live Updates

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  • SupaDudz
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    Early polls suggest Bernie leads with 26.4%
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    Can you provide a source?
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    Trump wins Iowa Caucus for Iowa, but we all expected that
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    Who are you rooting for and why?
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    Anyone but Bernie

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    Buttigeg is off to an early start, he's up right now. People saying Klobachaur came out strong suburban
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    I'm rooting for Berny

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    Socialist

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    It is a little too dangerous if Bernie wins. If he somehow wins the election, we are royally f***ed. But if someone like Biden won, we are still f***ed, but to a MUCH lesser extent. Plus Trump would have an easy time tearing apart Biden's cornpop stories.

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    I sure hope they don't steal the nomination from Bernie again like they did last time!
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    In terms of principle, yes. In terms of utilitarianism, no.
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    Understood, but how can the right utilitarianism choice be to steal his nomination if the majority of people voted for him?
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    Well utilitarianism is for bringing the most benefit to the most people. That doesn't necessarily mean listen to the majority of people lol. Rational ignorance.
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    Sanders is closing the gap
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    I don't care about the 2020 election. I want to see Berny supporters destroy the DNC.
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    Sanders takes the lead right behind Warren. Buttigeg falls to 3rd
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    I don't care about the 2020 election. I want to see Berny supporters destroy the DNC.

    What do you think will happen? I feel like a lot of voters just elect someone based on whether or not there is a D or an R behind their name. Essentially, most moderate Democrats hate Republicans and will likely just refuse to come to our side. They might stick with their comrades.
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    This is going on for a while, wow lmao what a mess
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    The Caucuses prove how the Democratic party can not function overall and shows the incompetence overall. There is no updates besides they can't calculate jack. Too bad Trump won already. Let's go Republicans
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    This is wrong.
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    I don't care about the 2020 election. I want to see Berny supporters destroy the DNC.

    Interesting. I think I heard something similar from a blue tie about 4 years ago, something like this:

    I don't care about the 2016 election. I want to see Trump supporters destroy the GOP.

    Of course we all know how that turned out...
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    Except Trump did permanently change the GOP.

    RINOS and neocons like McCain and Romney will never have any real say in the GOP ever again, even after Trump is gone.


    If supporters on both sides are honest, this is the only reason to vote for anti-establishment, populist candidates.
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    Out of the millions of failures, the recent inability to get timely results in Iowa only highlights why the party needs to be destroyed and rebuilt from the ground up. Bernie supporters are not shy at all about this.


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    This is going to surprise a lot of people on this site, but if I had to pick between Biden or Sanders, I think I'd pick Sanders because of the following and maybe more:

    -He is anti war.  Biden supports the military industrial complex.

    -He supports weed legalization recreationally, and getting the non violent drug offenders out of jail.  I don't think Biden did that.

    -He actually cares about America.  Biden doesn't give this vibe off as well.  He's too establishment.

    -Bernie supports medicare for all.  Biden doesn't.  Libertarians support low taxes.  Since medicare for all eliminates private taxes (co pays, premiums, deductibles) and replaces it with a smaller government tax, I should support medicare for all as someone who supports low taxes.  I want simple healthcare.

    -Bernie Sanders, while old, is actually competent for the job as President.  Biden is losing his mind.  He talked about his hairy legs.  Who does that on camera?

    -Even though Biden used to be the VP, even Obama doesn't support Joe running.


    If there are any Biden supporters that read this, I want to know why they support Biden over Sanders.  There's 2 sides to every coin after all.

    I would like to know how Bernie Sanders is a socialist.  Do I disagree with him on stuff?  Absolutely.  We disagree on free college/student debt, on tariffs, the minimum wage, taxes (he wants a progressive tax system, I want to abolish the income tax), we disagree about whether the rich are captains of industry or robber barons, and if Sanders does something I don't like, I'd criticize him for it, but at least Sanders is more competent than Joe Biden, who called some Iowan fat and challenged him to a pushup contest.  As someone who can do one arm pushups, I would be willing to take the challenge from Biden in their place.