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The Bolsheviks claimed to be democratic socialists.
please provide a source.


First thing they did when they seized power was hold elections. The people voted against them, so they scrapped elections.
ok. so people who took power using force, kept power by force. That is in no way related to what is happening now. 

How did these people ever seize power? Look at what is happening now. The very same tactics they used to gain enough support to seize power are being used today to trick America into socialism.
This is in no way similar. The Bolsheviks seized power through violence. Then kept it by violence. Sanders is gaining power by a democratic election and will rule via democracy. There is absolutely nothing in common between the Bolsheviks and Sanders.
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Ideologically, socialism is anti-Christian and a declaration of war against the church.



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Ideologically, socialism is anti-Christian and a declaration of war against the church.
1) there are no socialists running
2) socialism is not a religion. 
3) the US already has a separation of church and state. religious freedom is enshrined in the constitution and no one has ever suggested changing that. 
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Where my Bernie bros at?
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Iowa, DUH
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Iowa, DUH

Looks like it’ll be Bernie v Buttigieg at Convention now 🤷🏼‍♂️
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Buttigeg currently leading with 62% of the votes in, tied for delegates
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Looks like it’ll be Bernie v Buttigieg at Convention now
nah. Butigieg has no support among people of color or young people. The 1st few states are the only ones he is competitive in. Unless he can win 2 or three of the first 4 states, he will be done on super Tuesday. 

With Biden's pitiful showing in Iowa, if that trend continues in New Hampshire and Nevada, Biden's campaign might be in serious trouble too. I think that is what Bloomberg is hoping for. He wants to be able to sweep in and try to take over Biden's spot and centerist candidate. I highly doubt it will work though.