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@Greyparrot
Amen. I voted yesterday for Comrade Bernie along with a buddy😂😂
Global warming is a scam.
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@ILikePie5
Da Comrade. The Soviet Worker rebellion is afoot!
With Putin's help, we will be unstoppable!
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@ILikePie5
Can you imagine if Mike Bloomberg was in charge of what farmers could grow instead of the free market?
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@Greyparrot
Can you imagine if Mike Bloomberg was in charge of what farmers could grow instead of the free market?
We’d all be standing in bread lines 🤣🤣
As an avid conspiracy theorist who genuinely believes the Earth is flat, I must say that the conspiracy that power we have on climate change is false is only less stupid than the conspiracy theory that the Holocaust didn't happen or was in any way staged.
There is literally too much corroborated evidence to deny the effect that our emissions and activities are having on the climate. This is both good and bad, it means if things get too cold we actually could warm it up by carbon emissions (funny as that may seem, there was an ice age in our past so it's plausible) but for now we are heading too far in the other direction.
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@RationalMadman
This is both good and bad..
No, there can be only one type of alarmism. You can't say there is any good.
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@Greyparrot
I’d like to see the Dems survive when their food supply is cut off.
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@ILikePie5
What is so crazy is that the government is asking CLIMATE SCIENTISTS to evaluate impacts on areas of ECONOMY. The result is such a hodge-podge of unmitigated biased garbage that you can't understand the actual risk to you personally.
I mean how is a "climate scientist" supposed to evaluate how human populations cope with changing levels of food and water? If Malthus couldn't get it right 200 years ago, what makes 2020 so special?
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@Greyparrot
When the alarm sounds for an actual emergency, it's good.
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@RationalMadman
When the alarm sounds for an actual emergency, it's good.
I agree, but when the fire alarm rings at school, and the principal is smoking a doobie, it's hard to get worked up.
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@Greyparrot
I appreciate how little you try to hide the shallow depth of Right-Wing shill propaganda when carrying out this satire.
The sad thing is you don't realise how satirical everything you say is.
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@RationalMadman
All politics is satire to the independent thinker.
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@Greyparrot
No but a lot of it is exaggeration, I will give you that.
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@RationalMadman
It's no accident that the most productive politicians are also good humorists.
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@Greyparrot
if humans set out to deliberately melt the Thwaites and Pine Island Glaciers in the Antarctic, could they even do it?Well, let us see!According to the US Energy Information Administration, in 2016 the world produced 84.412479 quadrillion (84.412479X10^15) BTU. That converts to 8.906X10^19 J, consisting of fossil fuel (the largest component), nuclear, and renewable. And if we used all of the world’s energy to do nothing but melt the ice, we could not do it in 20 years, or even in 50 years. We could do it in about 4,500 years.
Your calculations here rely on the assumption that the only heat energy reaching the ice in question is that which is directly produced as a result of waste heat from human energy production. I am not aware of any environmentalist which has ever made this claim, thus rendering your argument an obvious strawman.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
No, it's not lol. It's a hypothetical situation showing just how much energy would be needed to melt the ice sheets. You're desperately trying to make math and thermal equations political. Either you can comprehend just how much latent heat is in the thermal ice sheets, or you cannot, but don't blame your lack of understanding on poor helpless strawmen that had nothing to do with your present condition.
You should take your political tie off and take up a pencil.
In fact, I presented 2 hypotheticals calculating how much heat we would need to melt the ice sheets, and Oromagi presented one hypothetical about melting the ice sheets.
Oro claimed hypothetically if he could take all the sun's rays striking the outer atmosphere of the planet and focus it on an area about 3% of the Earth's Surface, with zero loss of heat due to refraction or reflection or rotational tilt of the Earth, it would take about 40 days to melt the ice sheets.
Mathematically, he was correct.
Out of those 3 hypotheticals, if you still can't understand the magnitude of the latent thermal energy in the ice sheets, I don't know what other examples could help.
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@Greyparrot
Your claim is that the "50 years" figure presented by environmentalists is innacurate.
Question 1: Do the calculations behind your "4500 years" figure only factor in energy directly produced by human industry or do they also account for other factors?
Question 2: Do the calculations behind the environmentalists "50 years" figure only factor in energy directly produced by human industry or do they also account for other factors?
I hypothesize that you will not give a straight yes-or-no response to both these simple questions.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
1) No, and if you read the hypothetical without your political tie, it would have been obvious. The wording in the hypothetical is clear without you adding your spin.
2) Ibid.
Out of those 3 hypotheticals, if you still can't understand the magnitude of the latent thermal energy in the ice sheets, I don't know what other examples could help.
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@Greyparrot
2) Ibid.
Your answer to 1 was "no", so just to clarify you are claiming here that the answer to 2 is also no?