Why Trump is really Hitler.

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  • Greyparrot
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    When you are raised as a coddled snowflake, and a pinprick feels like a gunshot wound, then a funny looking man saying mean things will surely look like Hitler to you.
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    When you are raised ignorant and to enjoy your ignorance and pride yourself on your 'passion' as opposed to cool-headed rationality, you end up supporting a Fascist and focusing on the fact he's not a Nazi in order to deny the truth that he's still a non-Nazi fascist.
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    Okay...name me one Facist action. (you do know what an action is?)
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    I am actually a person who doesn't see Israel as the fascist regime in the Israel vs Hamas+PLO dynamic so his support of Israel I will leave aside entirely as this has been his sole non-fascist action thus far in a strange way but Israel is a hybrid system. There has never ever been a nation that's the system Israel is using in politics. It is in some ways Fascist and yet overall not Fascist at all, in some ways socially Liberal and yet in others severely Conservative etc. I will leave that debate aside.

    Trump's slogan is Fascist. Yes, to advocate the idea that your nation is going to become greater than other nations and not greater along with them is fundamentally the very basis of Fascist ideology. Then we look at how he is operating in his relations to other officials, in how he is legislating tariffs here and cutting tariffs there as he pleases. The Tariffs he raises are ones that help the rich and hurt blue collar workers such as what he did with I think it was Iron but maybe was Steel etc.

    Anyway, then we look at how he is altering legislation or intending to. Everything revolves around making businesses more attracted to USA and yet he is advocating the single highest corporate tax or maybe not single but among the highest in the history of presidents. There's so much subtlety to his Fascism that even left wing media isn't focusing on it as it's not sensational.

    I could go more into his raw mentality in how he approaches any situation where there is immigrants or foreigners not residing in USA involved but that's purely Nationalism which is a part of Fascism and isn't Fascist in itself.
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    If imposing tariffs are a fascist action as you stated, then you must concede that almost every nation on the planet is fascist, as they have imposed tariffs on American goods for decades.ย 

    Are there any other Fascist actions you wish to highlight? Any other specific policies? (hint, almost every policy you will point to is a watered down policy of what other nations use against us, especially concerning border control.)

    Slapping a label liberally only weakens the label.

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    >Trump
    >Facist

    Where is Trump advocating for Socialism and total subordination to the complete rule of the State?ย 


    Maybe you should realize you'v been brainwashed into believing somehow Facism is right wing. When Facism is:

    -Socialist
    -Nationalist
    -Identitarian

    Sound right wing to you? Maybe the case for nationalism could be made, but nationalism isnt exclusive to right wing governance. Many leftist governances at this point have been highly nationalistic.ย 

    DNC 2012- "The only thing we are all a part of is government"

    Gentile- The state will become the family unit because it is the one thing we all are a part of


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    Hrmmm ๐Ÿค”๐Ÿค”

    >Facism
    >Right-Wing

    Pick one, can't have both ๐Ÿ˜


    Also, that whole tariffs argument is BS. Trump from the get-go said Tariffs were the means to get full free and fair trade deals. That being, zero-tariff zero-subsidy. To which the EU has agreed in principle.ย 

    >Zero-tariff Zero-Subsidy trade
    >Facist

    Wew lad

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    I'm a man that doesn't follow other people's opinions about a certain person. I listen to the words the actual person uses and the words they say, and what Trump says and what I've listen to Hitler say are not very similar. Sorry, if I were to follow what the media says about Trump I would have a disgusting opinion of him but when I pay attention to what he actually says in speech it paints a different picture. Hitler seemed much more rigid and darker than Trump, even though Hitler was idolized he still didn't seem very personal...at all. Not saying Trump is the best man, just wouldn't compare his to Hitler that's a little extreme.ย 
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    Another part of your assertion is very troubling that the idea that the USA exists to make other nations great. We have had long standing nation-building policies for many decades with disastrous results, especially in the Middle East and Southern/Central America. We cannot point to a single success in nation building since the Marshall Plan in 1948. If continuing these interventionista policies makes our country <NOT Fascist> ....perhaps we have to re-evaluate what our labels really mean.
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    I could go into detail about how I just highlighted why his tariffs are fascistic as they consistently victimise blue collar workers at the benefit of white collar workers but it's going to fall on brainwashed ears.

    You're all very clearly hardcore Trump supporters and I don't need to convince you of anything. Keep thinking he's a saint and enjoy not being lower class because if you were, you'd understand why he's a devastating force.
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    Trump like every politician is flawed. You can tell when a person lacks perspective when they cannot point to either a good thing a person has done or a bad thing. Fascism should not be a label reserved for "someone you just don't like"

    Fascism should actually mean something specific. If you say "Tariffs are a critical component of fascism," then all countries that have tariffs are fascist.

    Perhaps you should just drop the hate labels before you shred them beyond recognition.
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    Trump's speeches sound like a toddler wrote them.
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    Perhaps more petulant as a child would be, and they arent stellar speeches by any means. But poor oration a Facist does not make.ย 

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    It's not just his tariffs that's just the most undeniably 'true fascist' ACT he's DONE.

    When ti comes to attitude to foreign officials and his dealings with them and the results of his 'negotiations' with them it's extremely like how Fascists did things; I am better than your nation and here to make a deal to not have to eventually dominate you against your will. This was entirely the spirit of his visit to the UK. It was putrid in all senses of the term,

    Trump is a cretin who I only admire for having some backbone when it comes to Sharia Law Tyranny and his ability to combat Putin despite Putin blackmailing him with the fake social media account scandal that got him (him being Trump) elected.
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    I hope you aren't implying that he is a fascist because of his speeches. And Fascists tend to have good public speakers.ย ย 
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    We don't think he is a saint. These tariffs were, again, a means to get to the end of zero-tariff zero-subsidy trade deals. Something that is starting to come to fruition with the EU agreeing to said deal in principle.ย 

    In geopolitics you have to play hardball. Our trading partners were going to be averse to free trade because the trade policies in place were mainly favorable to them. I agree that tariffs do tend to hurt the economy, but again, they are a means to get our partners to agree to the end of zero-subsidy zero-tariff trade. Something that will be highly beneficial to the US as a whole across the board.ย 

    "Highest corporate tax rate"

    Dude he slashed tax rates across the board... all to the decrying of the left saying, "only the rich will benefit!" funny, those tax cuts highly benefitted the lower and middle class primarily, who have seen those tax cuts do exactly what was stated they would do. Put more money back into the hands of the poor and middle class, and lower corporate tax rates to stimulate growth and return of jobs. And holy shit, the economy is at over 4% growth rate, and unemployment is lowering across the board, particularly in minority communities.ย 


    This whole song and dance of Trump being Facist is farcical and absurd. Again

    Where is Trump advocating for Socialism and total subordination to the state? How is pursuit of free trade policies facist? You say facist, its obvious you don't have a clue what facism actually is per the creator of the ideology and subsequent implementations.ย 

    Name the 5 points of the Nazi Party that were run on...GO


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    "poor oration does not make a facist"

    And i agree, previous Facists have pretty much all been excellent orators, some of the best humanity has witnessed fmpov

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    But oration skills as you pointed out, has little to do with whether or not someone is Facist. Their advocacy, policy, and ideals do
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    Agreed, but the most successful fascists were good orators.ย 
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    "I am stronger than you and am here to make a deal so i dont have to force you"

    You heard it here first folks, status quo geopolitics is facist. What a hot take ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚. Everyone is facist by that definition because all countries seek to solidify and expand their power and influence. Your just the kid whining that somebody is on top of the hill, when the game itself is and always has been one of king of the kill. ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

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    Why don't you just come out and say what's underlying your very arguments. That the US is the only one doing this, and if we weren't the world would be sunshine and puppydogs.ย 

    Just do it so we can point at WW2 and laugh at the absurdity of painting the US as the one who made the game, and not just the best player right now in it ๐Ÿ˜

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    Not just good orators, spectacular ones. Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, etc. were top tier public speakers. If i wasnt aware of the history of them, i'd probably start getting pumped listening too ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

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    That's such a bizarre criteria for fascism to say a nation that negotiates from a position of making their country better than other countries is what makes a nation fascist. Again, you are describing nearly every other nation on the planet. Name me one nation that pursues policies that ensure they are a vassal of another nation or deliberately hobbles themselves to ensure they are "on par" with other nations. The closest one you will find is Finland who consistently grovels before the Russians as a weak neutral border nation to make sure they do not provoke them. Is Finland the only non-fascist nation for having that policy?

    Fascism is wanting to make your nation better?
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    Be nice moose!
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    I think you have an idea that I think Fascism is inherently evil.

    I think it's corrupt and malignant as I'm a globalist but I do not (at all) think that Fascism itself is evil.ย 

    It is evil (every single time) in practise but so is Communism so that's a non sequitur.