bill gates and covid19. WHAT?

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    How in the world is bill gates involved with this stuff?





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    cause he said a global pandemic it was his biggest fear for the foreseeable future in  2014
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    Bill Gates knew.
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    he is one of the riches person in the world for a reason:he is smart
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    Link1: because he was right in his prediction that the virus could come out of a wet market in China makes him a chief suspect in the creation or spread of the virus? No. And he wasn’t the first to make the prediction. Epidemiologists have been saying it for years now. Wet markets that trade wild or exotic animals have often been linked to outbreaks of zoonotic diseases, and because China has many of them, it is not a long stretch to assume that wet markets in China would be the most likely source.  On a slight tangent, he unfortunately didn’t foresee (or voice) the role labs could have in the creation of novel viruses (chimeras). If you have time on your hands, the link below is a challenging but excellent read on the dangerous world of gain-of-function, viral research. 


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    Link 2: this link is more concerned about the inner musing and fantastical ruminations going on in head of an attention deprived Roger Stone—to be fair to Roger, the New York Post decided to make a ‘serious‘ piece on what was probably light heartened banter on a Radio/podcast show. 
    But anyway, I never heard Bill Gates suggest that mandatory vaccination or implanting microchips into people was what needed to be done here. And then what? How would that serve Bill Gates? The microchip in the forehead idea has been a longstanding obsession within conspiracy groups. You really don’t need need it in your forehead. A smartphone will do. 
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    Link 3: so he is warning that we need to stay serious and remain in lockdown for awhile yet, while also buying stocks of a depreciated investment fund. Additionally, he is the largest private contributor to the WHO. I can’ t see the conflict of interest. By that logic, anyone making a buck on a drop in share prices could be seen as taking advantage of the situation. 
    On his role with the WHO, most people would argue that the WHO wasn't quick enough to call it a pandemic. And so the more important question should be, ’ why didn’t the WHO call it a pandemic sooner?’, a question which then points the blame to China.
    But did the stock market drop when the WHO announced a pandemic on the 11th of March? No, it actually ended higher and recovered half the losses incurred the day before (which was ofc a spike unrelated to the announcement). 
    Of course, I agree that we shouldn’t have private philanthropists rich enough to donate that kind of money to groups of their choice. But that is a different topic. 
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    This nigga, has openly stated he wants to depopulate the Earth and gives to numerous pro depopulation charities. It is really no surprise he is pushing a pandemic now
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    Global pandemics are and for as long as we've been aware of the potential of a global pandemic,  global pandemics have therefore always been a foreseeable problem. 

    Bill Gates stated an opinion based on something that we were already aware of.
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    By depopulation charities, are you referring solely about abortion? Or actual depopulation charities?
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    No, it isn't semantics for abortion. He gives a large portion of his money to organizations that want to lower the population of Earth.
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    Can you give a non abortion example?

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    Here is one example of what the billandmelindagates foundation does, but he is pretty open about his concern for overpopulation . https://www.gatesfoundation.org/What-We-Do/Global-Development/Family-Planning

    His plan to combat it is through ease of contraception, and education and it seems he also thinks increasing the quality of living for people will reduce birth rates. There is numerous youtube videos of him discussing his overpopulation concerns, particularly on the continent of Africa

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    Increasing quality of life, and access to education and contraception are bad things? 

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    I said he contributes a lot with the intention to depopulate(reduce the population) of the Earth. 

    I never made any statements on whether that was ethical or not or even whether there is an ethical way to accomplish that.  I just have not taken a position on the ethics of his actions. 

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    gives to numerous pro depopulation charities. It is really no surprise he is pushing a pandemic now
    Accusing him of pushing a disease to depopulate is quite the ethical accusation. A far cry from education and quality of life.
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    Obviously he is only going to publicly acknowledge and advertise the tactics viewed as ethical. 

    The point is we have established a motive. The motive is depopulation.  If depopulation is good for society, why should he limit himself to perceived ethical ways to achieve that aim?
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    We established a public perception of good will, education, and increasing quality of life. We have established no mention of depopulation, forget motive.
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    We have established no mention of depopulation,


    Him admitting it openly for the last decade not count? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llAG5V7x17A&list=PL29C61B31B4AAB396

    forget motive. We established a public perception of good will, education, and increasing quality of life.

    His motive is to depopulate Earth and he openly admits it when using socially acceptable means to do so.  He is probably following the plan outlined on the Georgia guidestones. https://www.wired.com/2009/04/ff-guidestones/

    Are you under the impression that nobody ever uses ugly means to achieve an objective?
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    Are you under the impression that nobody ever uses ugly means to achieve an objective?
    Of course saying an absolute statement like "nobody ever" using ugly methods is as stupid as saying "anyone ever" promoting education and improved qualify of life is seeking to mass murder people...

    In that interview he is talking about family planning, a luxury that the wealthy and those in the 1st world have enjoyed for decades.

    His motive is to depopulate Earth and he openly admits it when using socially acceptable means to do so. 
    He openly admits to trying to help people, primarily through education and quality of life improvements. The connection to mass murder is entirely in your head. Do you assume all attempts at family planning are meant as population control, as if there is no direct benefit to the family that makes this desirable even without some nwo conspiracy?
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    No I don't think all attempts to help with family planning are about depopulation,  however in the case of Bill gates they are not an ends, but a means to an ends. The ends he is after is depopulation and he has spent billions doing this and openly admits it is his objective. 

    Your logic is shit honestly. You assume that Bill Gates would not take ugly means to achieve an objective, merely because he makes the less ugly means he pursues public knowledge. I assure you when I pursue a goal and mention the pretty means, it does not mean I am also not usually ugly means,it just means I don't brag about them 
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    This ends is only in your head.
    You claim he openly admits the objective, but earlier you say:

    openly admits it when using socially acceptable means to do so.
    And it is never socially acceptable to promote depopulation, therefore he never admits it?!? 

    You want to talk about faulty logic? Your talking yourself in circles lol.
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    Btw, is there a reason you broke apart and changed the order of my sentences while quoting? Seems deceptive.
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    Changing the order of your sentences does not change the meaning. 


    And it is never socially acceptable to promote depopulation, therefore he never admits it?!? 

    He actually openly admits to supporting depopulation.  The goal of depopulation is not inherently unethical. It wouldn't matter if it was though. The point is he finds it ethical to promote depopulation strategies, and openly admits to the more socially acceptable ways to pursue those goals. 

    Why do you think Bill Gates is lying when he says he believes the world is overpopulated and that we should do something about it? 
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    Changing the order of your sentences does not change the meaning. 
    Thats fine, but my concern was the "forget motive" which was taken from the end of the 2nd sentence, and applied to the beginning of the first. That had an effect both on the interpretation of the phrase, and the argument in sentence 2.

    Why do you think Bill Gates is lying when he says he believes the world is overpopulated 
    Because he never said that. If he did, he would be very wrong.

    1. His claim was not about the world, but about poor countries.

    2. Reducing population growth is not the same as reducing population.  One doesnt involve killing.

    You claimed he is "pushing the pandemic." In the context of depopulation desire, that must mean he started it, or is inflaming it. What exactly are you accusing him of?
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    Bill gates does call himself a "Health Expert."  All the patents he has for vaccines will put anyone with that vested interested smack in the middle.