The main purpose of the human life is to be happy

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    So fully explain something from nothing without starting after the beginning.


    I currently run with the idea of an oscillating universal sequence, in which intelligence/data is a key component. This also loosely addresses something-nothing-something as part of a sequence, but does not account for nothing-something.

    As I see it, nothing-something has to be void of intelligence.....This has always been my argument.


    Something-nothing -something fits nicely within the context of a finite universe, though I would question whether  this also implies that occupiable space is also finite. 
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    ...."So fully explain something from nothing without starting after the beginning."....

    You've never heard that from me and in fact you and others have clearly stated for last 30 years that  our finite, occupied space Universe { something } is eternally existent ergo the only perpetual motion machine.

    Your above proposition, ---whether you agree with or not--- is irrational, illogical and lacks common sense.

    ..."I currently run with the idea of an oscillating universal sequence, in which intelligence/data is a key component. This also loosely addresses something-nothing-something as part of a sequence, but does not account for nothing-something."..

    Osscillations between this phase of something and another phase of something { occupied space } is still eternally existent something { occupied space }

    .."As I see it, nothing-something has to be void of intelligence.....This has always been my argument."...

    Ive laid out very clearly for at least 10 years not, the three primary kinds of existence, in my Cosmic Trinity.

    All else is just mental masturbating mind games.  Bubble-gum for the mind, sort of like a good fictional movie.

    .."Something-nothing -something fits nicely within the context of a finite universe, though I would question whether  this also implies that occupiable space is also finite. "....

    There exists the macro-infinite non-occupied space, that, embraces/surrounds our finite, occupied space Universe. All else is mental masturbating mind games.

    When you actually have any mature adult, rational, logical common sense that adds to, or invalidates my Cosmic Trinity, please share.

    You, nor anyone else has done so, nor will any every do so. Cosmic laws/principles/truths are eternal.

    The closet we can come to something from nothing, is my symmetrical, ---ergo pure i.e. liken to concept---  four level/lines, that, when inside-outed define the asymmetrical, four level/lines, wherein we find basis for;

    outer, positive shaped, mass-attractive Gravitational Space (  ) ---metaphysical-3 { spirit-3 }---,

    inside the tube resultant reality, 0,3,6,9,12,15,18, etc sine-wave /\/\/\/ patterning ---3 kinds of electron,  3 kinds of neutrino, 18 kinds of quark etc----

    inner mass-dispersive Dark Energy Space )( ---metaphysical-4 { spirit-4 }----.
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    So went from symmetrical /\/\/\/\ to symmetrical /\/\/\/ being  inside-the-tube reality resultant of (>*< ) i  (>*<  ) { vertical cross-section of a torus } and i as metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts being outside/beyond/meta, the occupied space torus.

    Yes, truly metaphysical-2, non-occupied space is outside the composite set of tori as Universe, but for this example I only include metaphysical-1,  i



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    So fully explain something from nothing ( in a language that idiots like me can comprehend), without starting after the beginning.

    Your personal hypothesis is what it is and has probably perplexed people for the last thirty years.

    And cosmic trinities abound, but are always based upon something.
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    ..."So fully explain something from nothing ( in a language that idiots like me can comprehend), without starting after the beginning."...

    z4, your still playing immature mind games.

    how many times do I have to repeat to you over the last year or more, that, You've never heard that from me and in fact you and others have clearly stated for last 30 years that  our finite, occupied space Universe { something } is eternally existent ergo the only perpetual motion machine.

    Something { occupied space  } cannot come from nothing { true non-occupied space }.

    PLease get off the drugs long enough to open your eyes, ears and mind to rational, logical common sense truths.

    There is only one Cosmic Trinity by me and Ive attached various labels that seperates it from all others. Your closed/dens mindless ego prevents you from being able to make rational, logical common sense between various Cosmic Trinities.  Get off the drugs, your mind will work better.
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    Nope....That's because of your own ego based mind games.

    Sometimes there are rare flashes of clarity.


    Nonetheless, your hypothesis (if it is seriously meant ) starts after the beginning.....Which just won't do.


    And as you can see I am still undecided....Troll, Nutcase or Genius?
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    Something { occupied space  } cannot come from nothing { true non-occupied space }.

    When you actually have any signifcantly relevant evidence, much less a proof that invalidates my given above please share.

    You have no,t because, you do not have any.  Your ego based mind games have led you to false beliefs in immature irrational, illogical concepts.

    My ego has led to absolute and relative truths based on observation, rational, logical common sense conclusions, some of which or intuitive/speculative.



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    Makes sense, thank you.
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    With all due respect nothing you said makes anything clear. LOL.  Don't quite know what the entire universe has to do with finding a reason to wake up in the morning.
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    ....'Nothing from nothing leaves nothing, you got have something, if your going to be with me'.......song I heard on radio the other day

    Universe comes with happiness, sadness and all degrees in between. i'm happy to have discovered the geometric princples of;

    toroidal, positively curved Gravity (  )  in dieametric oppostion to,

    toroidal, negatively curved Dark Energy )(, and the resultant of those two, and the resultant

    inside the toroidal tube, sine-wave /\/\/\/\/\/\ patterned and associated physical/reality aka Observed Time

    I'm happy with my discoveries, there trinary correlation to my Cosmic Trinity Outline.  Its trinary turtles al the way to the micro-bottom from the macro-top, of occupied Space Universe.

    I'm happy that these discoveries are related to my geometric disoveries regarding prime number patterns in semi-linear 2D rows of four, semi-linear 2D rows of four when inside-outed, and with hexagonal pattern rows of prime only falling on  two radii, on each side of radii with no primes.

    Gravity ( 1, 5-7, 11-13, 17-19, 23----25......etc ) ....peak of positive geodesic curvature

    Observed Time /\/\/ 0, 3, 6, 9, 12, 15, 18,....etc /\/\/\/ inside the toroidal tube

    Dark Energy )(  2, 4, 8, 10, 14, 16, etc )( ...peak of negative geodesic curvature

    If want to understand Universe, begin at the top of my Cosmic Trinity Outline, that, I was so happy to discover and pass on those in search of cosmic truths.
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    This isn't me disagreeing, this is me legitimately curious where you got those numbers? From my brief research I've learned that positvely and negatively curved shapes are typically what people use to describe the shape of the universe, so I can infer that you are speaking about the specific shapes of gravity and time? Furthermore you extrapolate based off of that shape to come to some conclusion? I am curious where you got your numbers from? Do you have an academic resource, did you do and publish the tests yourself? Are they common knowledge I haven't stumbled onto? I am skeptical of every claim until it's been demonstrated, so this isn't a case where I'm saying I don't believe it, but I'm not convinced yet either.
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    This isn't me disagreeing, this is me legitimately curious where you got those numbers?
    Wedge, your new here so youve not seen several posts where Ive laid out clearly how came to my those specific  numbers and cosmic scenarios of which, for the most part or speculative on my part.  I have no reason to doubt the rational, logical common sense pathways I followed and those conclusions thereof.

    My discoveries date back to early or mid 90's when I was first learning about prime numbers so did my own doodlling around with trying to find a pattern.  I did find two distinct --tho related-- patterns and sent them to Nature Scientific American and one other science like magazine that I cant recall any more.  6 months later I get this snail mail fomr Oxford University U.K. and I'm like huhh?

    As best I can recal it was mathematician Ian Stewart who wrote me. He must of have been reviewer of dieas people send to these magazines in case there something of significant value.  So he tells me the geometric pattern of primes, was not something he had ever seen, however, my geometric discoveries had been expressed algebraically 200 years ago ergo he stated there was no use in doing in further research or explorations.

    My prime number pattern discoveries were expressed in two ways;

    1} a set of four rows --very similar to Arthur Young's { Bell helicoptorr } approach, but he began with number counting number, #1 and I began with non-counting number #0, and used four linear rows,  See LINK to arthurs Reflexsive Universe ideas, but my explorations occurred before I read his stuff,

    2} placing numbers in hexagaonal circle, with several sot of concentric like circles after each 6 numbers which led to my conjecture --that I mailed to the magazines-- that all prime numbers ---except 2 and 3-- fall only on two radii { radial lines }, that are on each side of a radii that has no primes.  So the algebraic expression of that, n * 6 plus or minus one, is where all primes fall  ---exeetp 2 and 3-- along with other non-primes.
     
    1} So here is the first four line/level pattern discovery scenario I found for primes, and this is 10 years before I concoted the third scenario ivolving torus;

    .0.......................................................6............................................................12...............................................................18.........................
    .........1.....................................5p...................7p.................................11p................13p.....................................17p.................19p.....................
    ....................2p.................4......................................8...............10.........................................14...................16........................................20
    ............................3p.........................................................9...............................................................15............................................................21

    2} was the hexagon with all primes --except  2 and 3--- falling on,  only two radii, along with other non-prime numbers. I dont have a link and old web page I had for free showing that hexagon scenario, as that free web page went bye-bye a long time ago, h,mm first time Ive done this with texticonic charactors.  Zero is the center and placing 2 and 3 aside you can begin to see the two radii of prime numbers, O, 1, 7p etc and O, 5p, 11p prime numbers.

    .............................7p........................8...............................................................
    ....................................1.............2p................................................................
    .................12........6.............O..............3p.......9...........................................................
    ....................................5p............4................................................................
    .............................11p.........................10...................................................

    3} so some ten years later, I got back into my 1st discovery above, and I followed one of Fullers ideas about things that turn themselves inside-out, ergo I did it with four lines, and that led to whole lot of new possible scenarios involving tori and much more;
    .........1...................................5p...................7p.................................11p................13p.....................................17p.................19p.....................
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    0.......................................................6............................................................12...............................................................18.........................
    .............................3p.........................................................9...............................................................15............................................................21
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    ....................2p.................4......................................8...............10.........................................14...................16........................................20I

    The top line  line/level I associate with the outer peak of positive curvature of a torus1, 5p, 7, p etc

    The two middle lines I asscociate Observed Time ergo physical/reality as associated with sine-wave pattern ergo 0, 3p, 6, 9, 12, 15, 18 inside the tube i.e. Graivty and Dark go inverse from the peak to create the sine-wave pattern of reality inside the tube and for those like you have not read my findings before, all fermionic matter is based on 3, 6, 9 12 and there are 18 kinds of flavored quark and 18 kinds of flavored anti-quark.

    The bottom line above I associate peak of iinner negative curvature of the same torus.

    No, I'm not saying the shape of Universe is a dynamically changing torus, I'm saying ever particle in Universe, except Graviton and Darkion is based on two or more interfering great tore.  We just never see { quantize } the outer and inner peaks ergo Gravitty (  )  is Metaphysical-3 { spirit-3 } and Dark Energy )(   is  Metaphysical-4 { spirit-4 }.

    The weak nuclear force is based on three particles W- W+ and Zo.  See this LINK and go about half way on page on left to these three.

    Gluons mathmatically add to nine { 9 } flavors but only manifest as 8 particles.  I dont fully understand that no matter how many times Ive read the explanations.

    My whole Cosmic Trinity Oultine shows how its trinary turtles all the way to the micro-bottom. Arthur Young never expressed any of the above and he got stuck on cosmic seven all the way to the micro-bottom scenario

    So Wedge, I hope that explains the basics of how I came to where I am, tho there is much more involved than Ive gone into above.

    From my brief research I've learned that positvely and negatively curved shapes are typically what people use to describe the shape of the universe, so I can infer that you are speaking about the specific shapes of gravity and time? Furthermore you extrapolate based off of that shape to come to some conclusion? I am curious where you got your numbers from? Do you have an academic resource, did you do and publish the tests yourself? Are they common knowledge I haven't stumbled onto? I am skeptical of every claim until it's been demonstrated, so this isn't a case where I'm saying I don't believe it, but I'm not convinced yet either.
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    Oh well that clears things up, that's what makes you wake up in the morning. You kinda  remind me of that person who sets their clock ahead 15 minutes and the first thing they do in the morning is math to figure out what time it really is. LOL. Kthen
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    You kinda  remind me of that person who sets their clock ahead 15 minutes and the first thing they do in the morning is math to figure out what time it really is. LOL. Kthen
    I dont know that person.  You appear to be more familiar with them than myself. My clock on counter matches one on PC.

    Physical, occupied space clocks reflect Metaphysical-1 { spirit-1 } mind/intellect/concept of abstract time.

    Observed Time is physical/reality occupied space i.e. fermions, bosons, and their collective association as atoms, molecules, biologic's,  planets etc.

    >>> Past >>>>>>>>> Arrow-of-Time >>>>>> Future.............Metaphysical-1 { spirit-1 } abstract time

    ............................Space(  *  )i ( * )Space........................

    <<< Past <<< Out <<< Flow-of-Time <<< In << Future..ergo Observed Time { spirit-2 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ }


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    I didn't say you did set your clock ahead, Your  previous response reminds of a person that  would do something like that.