voting by mail should be implemented nationwide

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    people shouldn't have to risk their lives by getting the virus, just to vote. i see republicans who oppose the idea, but as far as i can tell they can never give rational reasons for it. they are just lemmings following trump's desire. to be sure, i dont see any logic coming from trump either. it just boils down to the idea that trump thinks it would hurt his chances of winning if there's vote by mail. i do believe he has even said that he felt that way, at one point. 
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    I dont see any republicans against this
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    then you aren't looking. trump himself said he would stop funding for many programs in states that try to do mail voting. trump is against it. i've seen conservatives on facebook be against it too. they are all over, if you look. 
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    evidence

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    it's not my job to educate you, but feel free to google it and see for yourself
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    it is if your posting it, BOP on you
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    my resolution is that we should allow for vote by mail. whether trump or conservatives support it or not is irrelevant to my argument that we should allow vote by mail. 
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    first tweet is talking about the illegitimate process, apparently it was unauthorized, nothing about the principle of in-mail ballots

    Trump isnt against the principle he has said""Absentee ballots are a great way to vote for the many senior citizens, military, and others who can't get to the polls on Election Day. These ballots are very different from 100% Mail-In Voting, which is 'RIPE for FRAUD,' and shouldn't be allowed!"

    Absentee voting and simply voting by mail is different, he isnt against the new election reality for the next couple of weeks,

    Also, it seems that 2/3 of americans are concerned with voter fraud partically in-mail ballots


    New polling suggests nearly two-thirds of voters believe there is fraud in U.S. elections and that a majority of those respondents saw mail-in ballots as the cause of the fraud. Democrats in various states look to expand mail-in voting amid the coronavirus pandemic.
    Sixty-two percent of voters believe there is fraud in U.S. elections, according to a new Republic National Committee (RNC) survey, conducted May 1-4 by Public Opinion Strategies.

    Thousands of ballots not counting in Michigan because of the system.

    the fact is that Republicans and Trump isnt against the idea of voting from home because of the new situation, but it is obvious they are flaws
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    Thousands didnt count cause of this system

    it needs to be renfined
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    first you say trump is against mail voting for everyone because of fraud, and then you conclude by saying trump isn't against voting from home....

    there's next to no fraud in absentee ballots. i dont see why opening it up to everyone would change anything. 
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    Trump isnt against the principle he has said""Absentee ballots are a great way to vote for the many senior citizens, military, and others who can't get to the polls on Election Day. These ballots are very different from 100% Mail-In Voting, which is 'RIPE for FRAUD,' and shouldn't be allowed!"
    Very clear here that Trump is against mail-in voting.




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    Very clear here that Trump is against mail-in voting.
    it's very clear he's against fraud, if the fraud could be eliminated would Trump then be against mail-in voting?  so is it "very clear here that Trump is against mail-in voting?"  or just your tunnel vision bias?
    Dummycrats don't think people should have to show i.d. to vote or even be alive so yeah the current systems they are attempting I am against because of fraud, you should be as well.


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    it's very clear he's against fraud, if the fraud could be eliminated would Trump then be against mail-in voting?  so is it "very clear here that Trump is against mail-in voting?"  or just your tunnel vision bias?
    If Trump was against the fraud, then he would've said something along the lines of:
    These ballots are very different from 100% Mail-In Voting, which is 'RIPE for FRAUD,' and should be fixed!
    but instead, he said:
    These ballots are very different from 100% Mail-In Voting, which is 'RIPE for FRAUD,' and shouldn't be allowed!
    There's a huge difference between those two statements.

    Dummycrats don't think people should have to show i.d. to vote or even be alive so yeah the current systems they are attempting I am against because of fraud, you should be as well.
    As I have stated above, fraud isn't the reason why Trump is against it.
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    ok and? 5k ballots were lost in Michigan due to it
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    ok and? 5k ballots were lost in Michigan due to it
    What does this have to do with #12 exactly?
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    donald trump has a point
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    See #14
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    so if he said
    "Absentee ballots are a great way to vote for the many senior citizens, military, and others who can't get to the polls on Election Day."

    Absentee voting (aka “mail-in voting” and “by-mail voting”) is conducted by mail-in ballot before the day of Election Day. All states will mail a ballot to voters if certain conditions are met. The voter may return the ballot in person or by mail. 

    then your claim
    "Very clear here that Trump is against mail-in voting."
    doesn't appear accurate does it?

    which is why I said
    "it's very clear he's against fraud"


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    he is for absentee ballots
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    Absentee voting and simply voting by mail is different

    Absentee voting (aka “mail-in voting”...
    So are absentee voting and mail-in voting the same thing, or are they different?
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    they both are mailed afaik, however there is a process to get an absentee mail-in and I'm not 100% sure what the plain old mail-in is actually referring to.  Since many democrats say it's racist to require i.d. to vote or prove citizenship because blacks can't get i.d. don't have internet access etc (according to them) I would guess it would be just a mail-in ballot than anyone could get without any proof etc, hence the fraud concern.
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    different, my first ppost proves trump has two different opinions on the,
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    Since many democrats say it's racist to require i.d. to vote or prove citizenship because blacks can't get i.d. don't have internet access etc (according to them)  I would guess it would be just a mail-in ballot than anyone could get without any proof etc, hence the fraud concern.
    Where did you get this info from? Also, I'm VERY sure that isn't what mail-in voting is. Every single governmental election requires proof of citizenship.

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    different
    What is the difference exactly?

    my first ppost proves trump has two different opinions on the,
    I'll let you finish your sentence.