Joe Biden says that if you don't vote for him then you are not black

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exactly, the democrats have always assumed they had total control over a certain demographic and those votes were guaranteed no matter what they did, didn't do, say or not say.  The thought that blacks would think for themselves and not vote democrat is repugnant to Biden.
I actually totally agree with you. 

super predator, hot sauce the list goes on and on, why the majority still vote for them I just don't understand.
it's because the republicans are worse. Many are fairly blatantly racist (trump as a case in point). The democrats don't do much to help black people, but they don't tend to go out of their way to hurt them either. Republicans tend to go out of their way to hurt black people. Often that isn't their intention, but it is the outcome of their actions. 
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it's because the republicans are worse. 
Republicans tend to go out of their way to hurt black people.
such as?

Trump has pointed out historically low black unemployment, criminal "justice" reform, seems he's not very good at being a racist.
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He is racist for not promising welfare, reparations, and special protected status.

Although his Urban policies rebuilding urban areas might technically be considered welfare, it's certainly nothing that could be abused by the black community as a traditional Democrat welfare policy.
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Often that isn't their intention, but it is the outcome of their actions. 
There is an overwhelming amount of documentation showing the rise in fatherless black households correlated to the rise in direct welfare payments to black mothers.

The famous social engineer Democrat Senator Moynihan was shocked to discover this unintended harm to the black community.

Moynihan argued that without access to jobs for Blacks (which Trump is full steam on) and the means to contribute meaningful support to a family, black men would become systematically alienated from their roles as husbands and fathers, which would cause rates of divorce, child abandonment and out-of-wedlock births to skyrocket in the black community (a trend that had already begun by the mid-1960s), leading to vast increases in the numbers of households headed by females and the higher rates of poverty, lower educational outcomes, and inflated rates of child abuse that are allegedly associated with these factors.

Moynihan's research of Labor Department data demonstrated that even as fewer people were unemployed, more people were joining the welfare rolls. These recipients were families with children but only one parent (almost invariably the mother). The laws at that time permitted such families to receive welfare payments in certain parts of the United States.

Critics of the traditional cash welfare payments to unwed mothers claimed that the nation was paying poor women to throw their husbands out of the house.

Moynihan made a contemporaneous argument for programs for jobs, vocational training, and educational programs for the black community. Modern scholars of the 21st century, including Douglas Massey, believe that the report was one of the more influential in the construction of the War on Poverty


In 1965 on the coming destruction of the Black family, the out-of-wedlock birth rate was 25% among Blacks.
In 2011, 72% of Black babies were born to unmarried mothers.

There's not a single Democrat willing to fix this problem because they have a huge invested network of paid black leaders willing to take a buck at the expense of the black family. As long as they can pretend there is no problem, then they don't have to answer the questions concerned people like Charlemagne Tha God would ask them.

Two of the most compelling reasons for the rise of fatherlessness is black unemployment, which encourages the welfare condition of single unwed mothers. The other reason being the mass incarceration of black fathers for petty crimes.

Which party is going to fix this? Biden? Trump?

Like Charlemagne Tha God said regarding Biden's comments "This isn't about perceived racism or insensitivity. I just want to know what you are going to do to help the Black Community"
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Trump has pointed out historically low black unemployment, criminal "justice" reform, seems he's not very good at being a racist.
trump has a very long history of racism. he is very, very good at it.

Low unemployment is a result of a booming economy which he inherited at the start of his term. That has little, if anything, to do with trump. Certainly nothing to do with his racism. 

Trump has a history of fighting against criminal justice reform. He was a supporter of stop and frisk, a deeply racist policy. He brought back the federal death penalty (which is disproportionately used on people of color). You are arguing that turmp signed 1 piece of legislation, that he had no part in writing, so that means he isn't racist. That is some very weak evidence. 
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Often that isn't their intention, but it is the outcome of their actions. 
There is an overwhelming amount of documentation showing the rise in fatherless black households correlated to the rise in direct welfare payments to black mothers.
I have never argued the current design of social programs is perfect. It is deeply flawed and needs reform. But cutting social programs and throwing those people out in the streets to starve is absolutely not going to improve the situation. and that is what much of the republican party would love to do. So if your options are bad social policies that keep people in poverty, or no social policies that will see your children starve, there really is no contest. 
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Pardon me while I choke back the hyperbole you just tried to shove down my throat.
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trump has a very long history of racism. he is very, very good at it.

He has a 3-year recent history of being a terrible racist. Not a single Trump policy has hurt minorities.

There is nothing new that we have learned about Trump since he has become president. Trump has consistently been who he now is for more than forty years. These Black folks who now want to brand Trump as a racist didn’t seem to mind associating with him when he owned casinos; when he was one of the biggest boxing promoters in the world; when he flew them around on his private jets and helicopters, or when he invited them to appear on his “Apprentice” TV show. — (NNPA)
So, the question that I ask Black America and White liberals is this: When did Donald Trump suddenly become a racist? Before he entered the world of politics, he was branded as the life of the party; now that he is president, he is being branded as a racist.

Bill and Hillary Clinton were personal guests at Trump’s wedding to Melania in 2005 at Mar-a-Lago, Trump’s private members-only club in Palm Beach, Fla. Other notables at Trump’s wedding were: Shaquille O’Neal, Anna Wintour, Simon Cowell, Kelly Ripa, Katie Couric, and Russell Simmons.
For a racist, Trump seems to have a very eclectic group of friends from all walks of life.

An interesting point of fact is that Mar-a-Lago is located in Palm Beach, Florida, one of the wealthiest communities in the United States. Two of Mar-a-Lago’s competitors—the Palm Beach Bath and Tennis Club and The Everglades Club—have notoriously refused to admit Blacks. The Miami New Times reported that Hollywood legend Sammy Davis, Jr. was once kicked out of The Everglades Club, “because he was Black and Jewish.”

In comparison, according to a Complex.com listicle on the “25 Most Outrageously Exclusive Social Clubs in America” Trump’s Mar-a-lago club, doesn’t discriminate against anyone who can afford the $150,000 initiation fee and $7,000 in annual dues.

The Wall Street Journal reported that, in 1996, “Trump filed a lawsuit in the U.S. District Court in Palm Beach, alleging that the town was discriminating against Mar-a-Lago, in part because it is open to Jews and African Americans.”

The obvious answer to my question posed here is that Trump and his relationship with minorities is very complicated, but the lazy media keeps trying to proffer simplistic answers to a complicated issue.

 When exactly did Trump become a racist?

The Rev. Jesse Jackson once praised Donald Trump for being a “friend” who embraced “the under-served communities.”

“We need your building skills, your gusto . . . for the people on Wall Street to represent diversity,” Jackson, a civil-rights leader, said at a Rainbow Push Coalition event in 1999.

And at a 1998 event in front of the same organization, Jackson said, “I now want to bring forth a friend — well, he is deceptive in that his social style is of such, one can miss his seriousness and commitment to success, which is beyond argument.

“When we opened this Wall Street project . . . He gave us space at 40 Wall Street, which was to make a statement about our having a presence there.”


Did he become a racist after 1999?

 When exactly did Trump become a racist?


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Low unemployment is a result of a booming economy which he inherited at the start of his term.

America has seen booming economies under many Democrat Presidents, yet nowhere near the unemployment numbers for blacks that Trump was responsible for during his tenure.

Exactly how did those Democrat presidents fuck up where Trump succeeded? Let's hear the excuses.



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Oprah had him on her show and said he would make a great president lol so there's that also.
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America has seen booming economies under many Democrat Presidents, yet nowhere near the unemployment numbers for blacks that Trump was responsible for during his tenure.

Exactly how did those Democrat presidents fuck up where Trump succeeded? Let's hear the excuses.

I don't even understand the question. Obama was handed a disaster from his republican successor. He turned that into a massive success. Trump was handed a massive success and no crises had emerged during his entire tenure in office. He also didn't manage to pass virtually anything he wanted to do, so he didn't have much of a chance to affect the outcome. It's not that Trump has somehow succeeded where others have failed, it's that he was handed a winning economy and didn't do anything to affect it. Now he has had a crisis come up during his tenure and it has been a complete debacle. 
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He has a 3-year recent history of being a terrible racist. Not a single Trump policy has hurt minorities.
he hasn't been able to pass very much because of massive incompetence. That's like saying i did 1 whole thing today, and not one of them was a crime.

There is nothing new that we have learned about Trump since he has become president. Trump has consistently been who he now is for more than forty years.
fair. He was a lying, misogynistic racist when he was elected. He still is. 

So, the question that I ask Black America and White liberals is this: When did Donald Trump suddenly become a racist? Before he entered the world of politics, he was branded as the life of the party; now that he is president, he is being branded as a racist.
he's been a racist for years, his entire adult life. I mean trump was sued back in the 70's by the justice department for illegally blocking black people from living in his buildings. This isn't some new conspiracy that is being brought up.  I mean he wanted the (wrongfully accused) central park 5 executed. He repeated that belief even after DNA evidence exonerated them. He is a long standing racist. 

The obvious answer to my question posed here is that Trump and his relationship with minorities is very complicated, but the lazy media keeps trying to proffer simplistic answers to a complicated issue.
by complicated you mean "he has done many, many blatently racist things" but he also does some not blatantly racist things when he can profit from it. Oh yes, his greed perfectly counters his racism. What a saint.

When exactly did Trump become a racist?
Since at least the 70's. But probably his entire life. 
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Since at least the 70's. But probably his entire life. 

Give me an example of a failed racist then. Someone who really, really sucks at being a racist.


America has seen booming economies under many Democrat Presidents, yet nowhere near the unemployment numbers for blacks that Trump was responsible for during his tenure.

Exactly how did those Democrat presidents fuck up where Trump succeeded? Let's hear the excuses.

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Here is a graph since you probably can't remember a democratic president before Obama.

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I didn't ask that question, you tagged the wrong person.
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Yeah, I just now saw his non-response explaining why FDR, Truman, JFK, Johnson, Carter, and Clinton had booming economies, some more than Trump at some points, yet they were not able to replicate the Trump unemployment numbers at any point for Black Americans.


What do you have to lose indeed.
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keep um poor, unemployed, bad schools, dependent on the government and you have a pretty good voter base at your mercy right?
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For every 2 illegal invaders denied a job, one opens up for an American. Funny how that policy works.
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This is a great read if you have the cerebral stamina and acumen to follow it.


It really focuses in on the fundamental differences on how a Big Government Technocrat and Trump operates, and what the results have been.

President Donald J. Trump established the policy of his Administration to regulate the United States financial system in a manner consistent with a set of Core Principles. These principles were set forth in Executive Order 13772 on February 3, 2017.
This Report is prepared by the U.S. Department of the Treasury, under the direction of Secretary Steven T. Mnuchin, in response to the Executive Order.
This Report, and subsequent Reports, will identify any laws, treaties, regulations, guidance, reporting and record-keeping requirements, and other Government policies that inhibit Federal regulation of the U.S. financial system in a manner consistent with the Core Principles.

The Core Principles are:
A. Empower Americans to make independent financial decisions and informed choices in the marketplace, save for retirement, and build individual wealth;
B. Prevent taxpayer-funded bailouts;
C. Foster economic growth and vibrant financial markets through more rigorous regulatory impact analysis that addresses systemic risk and market failures, such as moral hazard and information asymmetry;
D. Enable American companies to be competitive with foreign firms in domestic and foreign markets;
E. Advance American interests in international financial regulatory negotiations and meetings;
F. Make regulation efficient, effective, and appropriately tailored; and
G. Restore public accountability within Federal financial regulatory agencies and rationalize the Federal financial regulatory framework.
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This isn't going to move the dial for most black people. At most, they'll roll their eyes. The bigger story, and what could actually hurt Biden, is him failing to deliver real results to this constituency.

Most white people have this retarded idea of what black people are like that is completely divorced from reality. Biden is actually right; black people are not going to vote for Trump en masse. If anything, they will stay home if Biden pisses them off enough. And so will Trump's base if he fails to deliver what his campaign promised.
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Yeah, I just now saw his non-response explaining why FDR, Truman, JFK, Johnson, Carter, and Clinton had booming economies, some more than Trump at some points, yet they were not able to replicate the Trump unemployment numbers at any point for Black Americans.
You are trying to compare apples to oranges. The american economy, and society is constantly changing. Comparing black unemployment numbers while 40 years ago to today is useful in some metrics, but to use them to say whether a president is racist or not is a complete joke.

Trump inherited an economy on the rise where black unemployment was falling. that trend continued during his presidency and he wasn't able to pass anything (due to incompetence) to derail that. That does not mean that he is somehow a friend to black people. That doesn't undo his lifetime of racism. 
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Trump inherited an economy on the rise where black unemployment was falling...

So what..more than 5 democratic presidents inherited economies where black unemployment was falling. What is the excuse?
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how soon they forget, sigh

Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act
 the bill was originally written by Senator Joe Biden of Delaware and then was passed by Congress and signed into law by President Bill Clinton.
The Act contributed to mass incarceration and prison overcrowding. The legal system relied on plea bargains to minimize the increased case load.[21][22] Jerry Brown and Bill Clinton later expressed regret over the portions of the measure that led to increased prison population like the three strikes provision.
As a result of the aforementioned increase in incarceration, a disproportionate amount of minorities ended up within the American prison system.


this is what president Trump has rolled back, probably not enough but even the first half black president didn't touch it.
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So what..more than 5 democratic presidents inherited economies where black unemployment was falling. What is the excuse?
what are you talking about? what excuse? America has been trying to move forward from massively systemic racism for decades. That takes time, alot of it. So yes, trump inherited a great economy and a situation in which black people's lives were improving. I don't see any way that this says anything at all about trump's blatant racism. 

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So Bill Clinton's excuse for not getting Blacks jobs in a booming economy is because he was aiding systemic racism? Sure whatever.

If you believe the systemic racism going on during the 90's was all the Brown illegal invaders getting preferred status for jobs over Black Americans, sure I guess I can go along with that systemic racism.

Cause you know skin color is a thing where national identity is not.
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HB is a leftist hack. He’s probably gonna vote Biden but he’s too much of a pussy to admit it here
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This whole story is going to have lasted all of 5 days following the Minnesota Police incident and Trumps tirade over Twitter fact checking him. 

The beauty of the situation that Biden finds himself in is even if he does have a fuck up moment, you only have to wait a week at most for some other fuckery of equal scale to take place that directly involves Trump, and then attention shifts directly to that until the next moment after that happens in another week. 
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Don’t worry buddy. Just wait till TVs are bombarded with Biden’s gaffes. Everyone who hates Trump still hates him. Not everyone who’s votIng for Joe likes him
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Isn't Minnesota a Blue State? And since when did Trump supporters give a crap about Soros funded "fact/opinion checkers/thoughtpolice"?

If anything, the scamdemic lockdown is going to piss off a ton of blue voters in authoritarian states as well as the swing states, leading to an increasing distrust of authoritarian media. (as if the Mueller scam wasn't enough)

I'm glad Twitter shot the first salvo at the President. Up to now, the liberal media industrial complex has been afraid and pretending they are not the resistance. No more guerilla tactics. It's out in the open now.
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even before now Biden creeping on little girls has gone ignored, the videos don't lie, so if people are willing to ignore that long time behavior they will ignore everything.