Who do you hope wins the Federal Election?

Author: Trent0405 ,

Topic's posts

Posts in total: 38
  • Trent0405
    Trent0405 avatar
    Debates: 32
    Forum posts: 448
    2
    8
    11
    Trent0405 avatar
    Trent0405
    I will be supporting Biden over Trump, what do you think?
  • Greyparrot
    Greyparrot avatar
    Debates: 2
    Forum posts: 9,778
    3
    3
    8
    Greyparrot avatar
    Greyparrot
    I'm not supporting anyone till October. There are running odds Biden might not make it to October.

  • Marko
    Marko avatar
    Debates: 0
    Forum posts: 93
    0
    0
    2
    Marko avatar
    Marko
    --> @Trent0405
    Lovely idea. A completely brain dead president is always a better option than moderately ‘well’ functioning one. 
    If he ever makes it to Election Day, you’ll simply be voting for the Vice President (aka president).

  • Trent0405
    Trent0405 avatar
    Debates: 32
    Forum posts: 448
    2
    8
    11
    Trent0405 avatar
    Trent0405
    --> @Marko
    You think Trump is more competent than Biden? Biden has slipped up before, but Trump has said some horrid and ant-intellectual things. Biden's positions are generally backed by the academic community, at least more so than Trump's.
  • Marko
    Marko avatar
    Debates: 0
    Forum posts: 93
    0
    0
    2
    Marko avatar
    Marko
    --> @Trent0405
    Do you mean intellectually competent? If so, yes of course—the man clearly suffers from some advanced form of dementia, and as a result, it isn’t very difficult to be more competent than he is right now. 
    That trump doesn’t abide to the rigorous PC culture and political status quo is a separate issue.

  • Greyparrot
    Greyparrot avatar
    Debates: 2
    Forum posts: 9,778
    3
    3
    8
    Greyparrot avatar
    Greyparrot
    --> @Trent0405
    Biden's positions are generally backed by the academic community..

    I wouldn't want my government-funded college professor to be in charge of anything above maintaining the coffee machine in the staff lounge.

    Those who can't do, teach. Especially today's college professors who haven't left their cloisters in decades.

    Let's look at the successes of Elon Musk, Steve Jobs, Jeff Bezos. These people shouldn't ever be in a classroom as they would make students cry and bleed. They are people who have grit and drive to get through problems and manage the hierarchical and political complexities of running global companies.
    People who teach enjoy the thinking and deep analysis of a problem. I think in many instances they have a better understanding of business problems than the people running the companies. What they don't have is tolerance with dealing with various liability variables, stresses and demanding stakeholders that might distract them from their goals. Teachers typically compartmentalize problems as theories to action. They don't think about the larger scope of regulatory complexities, stakeholder battles, internal politics outside of their specific theory, and frame of reference. I find academics are usually right at exploring the big ideas when you see things at 100,000 feet. What they aren't good at is seeing the issue straight in front of them because it is about just what is the most practical decision based on resource allocation and risk assessment, and the saying "those who can't do, teach" is not an insult. I believe it is about personality and what you want out of a job. I can tell you right now I would be the WORST investment banker, which is me saying I would be the worst millionaire you've ever met.

  • ILikePie5
    ILikePie5 avatar
    Debates: 0
    Forum posts: 6,898
    3
    5
    9
    ILikePie5 avatar
    ILikePie5
    --> @Trent0405
    I will be supporting Biden over Trump, what do you think?
    So you gonna support a racist and a rapist? Nice
  • Trent0405
    Trent0405 avatar
    Debates: 32
    Forum posts: 448
    2
    8
    11
    Trent0405 avatar
    Trent0405
    --> @ILikePie5


    So you gonna support a racist and a rapist? Nice
    I can say these same things about Trump. I wouldn't, but if Biden is a rascist and a rapist then so is Trump.
  • Trent0405
    Trent0405 avatar
    Debates: 32
    Forum posts: 448
    2
    8
    11
    Trent0405 avatar
    Trent0405
    --> @Greyparrot
    I was referring more to academics and their research, not teachers. Look at polls of economists or research published on trade, populism, and immigration, they aren't in alignment with Donald Trump at all.
  • Greyparrot
    Greyparrot avatar
    Debates: 2
    Forum posts: 9,778
    3
    3
    8
    Greyparrot avatar
    Greyparrot
    --> @Trent0405
    So what, I don't want any academic with a narrow field of knowledge making command decisions involving hundreds of non-feild related variables.

    For example, Dr. Fauci knows a LOT about viruses and infection vectors. He knows absolutely nothing about physical and mental health problems due to an extended quarantine with reduced income. If Academics were in charge, we would be dealing with a different kind of disaster, the one government is also notorious for. The crisis of unintended consequences. The narrow scope of academic experts should be taken as a puzzle piece. Not a whole solution. This is why we don't elect a specialist to make command decisions that require a much, much larger skillset.
  • Trent0405
    Trent0405 avatar
    Debates: 32
    Forum posts: 448
    2
    8
    11
    Trent0405 avatar
    Trent0405
    --> @Greyparrot
    So what, I don't want any academic with a narrow field of knowledge making command decisions involving hundreds of non-feild related variables.
    Research  from academics provides us with our facts to form our opinions though, if the facts side with one side over another, then I want my politician to side with the facts of the matter. I find it really hard to believe all of the academics have got it wrong, but Trump has found this great truth.
  • Greyparrot
    Greyparrot avatar
    Debates: 2
    Forum posts: 9,778
    3
    3
    8
    Greyparrot avatar
    Greyparrot
    --> @Trent0405
    So you would be fine if Fauci was the president and had us in quarantine until a vaccination was developed?
  • Trent0405
    Trent0405 avatar
    Debates: 32
    Forum posts: 448
    2
    8
    11
    Trent0405 avatar
    Trent0405
    --> @Greyparrot
    If we examined the totality of the evidence and that is what it suggests, then sure. But I highly doubt that.
  • Greyparrot
    Greyparrot avatar
    Debates: 2
    Forum posts: 9,778
    3
    3
    8
    Greyparrot avatar
    Greyparrot
    --> @Trent0405
    Is that a yes or no answer, because that is Fauci's position.
  • Trent0405
    Trent0405 avatar
    Debates: 32
    Forum posts: 448
    2
    8
    11
    Trent0405 avatar
    Trent0405
    --> @Greyparrot
    It doesn't matter what fauci thinks, here is why.

    Say I want policy A to get passed. I analyze 100 studies on this policy.

    say fauci's research thinks it is good, 20 studies have inconclusive results, and the rest are against it. If Fauci is vocally against it, it doesn't matter. I care about the opinion of the whole of the data.

  • Greyparrot
    Greyparrot avatar
    Debates: 2
    Forum posts: 9,778
    3
    3
    8
    Greyparrot avatar
    Greyparrot
    --> @Trent0405
    Well Fauci doesn't give a crap about your 100 studies regarding mental health, suicide rates, and long term economic distress. This is why we don't have academics in charge of anything outside of their specialty.
  • Trent0405
    Trent0405 avatar
    Debates: 32
    Forum posts: 448
    2
    8
    11
    Trent0405 avatar
    Trent0405
    --> @Greyparrot
    Fauci has(probably) come to a niche minority position, academics, like all people, can be misguided, this doesn't mean we should throw out the baby with the bath water.
  • Greyparrot
    Greyparrot avatar
    Debates: 2
    Forum posts: 9,778
    3
    3
    8
    Greyparrot avatar
    Greyparrot
    How about we deal with another myopic problem Academia is responsible for. Chinese trade. Which many "experts" are at odds on with Trump.

    On paper, it is great for the American consumer and the economy to have a wide selection of cheap Chinese goods partially subsidized with the theft of intellectual property.

    In actuality, the mental burdens of the American worker are intolerable when they are not able to produce the things they want to produce. Underemployment brings a slew of problems to pay for those cheap Chinese goods. It's an unintended consequence myopic academic specialists have no capacity to analyze. The government's over-reliance on these appointed specialists is what chronically causes these problems, so the government puts a different specialist in charge, who then creates yet another unintended consequential problem, and the hamster wheel just keeps on a spinning. 

    Myopic Academia should NEVER be in charge of anything outside of their field regardless of their protestations against Dunning-Kruger.

    Don't even get me started on the Keynesian fiascos of the last half a Century...
  • Greyparrot
    Greyparrot avatar
    Debates: 2
    Forum posts: 9,778
    3
    3
    8
    Greyparrot avatar
    Greyparrot
    --> @Trent0405
    Additionally, considering the ongoing cold war with China that the crony corporate media has been desperately trying to obfuscate, it behooves me personally to take anything from the Academia, which are funded to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars from China, without a healthy heaping tablespoon of salt.


  • Trent0405
    Trent0405 avatar
    Debates: 32
    Forum posts: 448
    2
    8
    11
    Trent0405 avatar
    Trent0405
    --> @Greyparrot
    Those cheap Chinese goods do wonders for Americans, if some workers are mentally burdened as you suggest, then that's pretty bad, but the benefits definitely outweigh the drawbacks. The fact that poor Americans can afford an I-Phone is a beautiful thing, I would never want to give that up. The fact that some people lose from these trade deals is bad, but the rest of the country shouldn't suffer to save this minority.
  • Greyparrot
    Greyparrot avatar
    Debates: 2
    Forum posts: 9,778
    3
    3
    8
    Greyparrot avatar
    Greyparrot
    --> @Trent0405
    Since China entered the World Trade Organization in 2001, the extraordinary growth of U.S. trade with China has had a dramatic effect on U.S. workers and the domestic economy. The United States is piling up foreign debt and losing export capacity, and the growing trade deficit with China has been a prime contributor to the crisis in U.S. manufacturing employment. Between 2001 and 2010, the trade deficit with China eliminated or displaced 2.8 million jobs, 1.9 million (69.2 percent) of which were in manufacturing. The 1.9 million manufacturing jobs eliminated or displaced due to trade with China represents nearly half of all U.S. manufacturing jobs lost or displaced between China’s entry into WTO and 2010.

    The 2.8 million jobs lost or displaced in all sectors include 453,100 jobs lost or displaced from 2008 to 2010 alone—even though imports from China and the rest of the world collapsed in 2009. (Imports from China have since recovered and surpassed their peak in 2008.) The growing trade deficit with China has cost jobs in every congressional district, including the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico.

    But the jobs impact of the China trade deficit is not restricted to job loss and displacement. Competition with low-wage workers from less-developed countries such as China has driven down wages for workers in U.S. manufacturing and reduced the wages and bargaining power of similar, non-college educated workers throughout the economy. The affected population includes essentially all workers with less than a four-year college degree—roughly 70% of the workforce, or about 100 million workers (Bureau of Labor Statistics 2011a).

    Put another way, for a typical full-time median-wage earner in 2006, earnings losses due to globalization totaled approximately $1,400. China is the most important source of downward wage pressure from trade with less-developed countries, because it pays very low wages and because its products make up such a large portion of U.S. imports (China was responsible for 54% of U.S. non-oil imports from less-developed countries in 2010).

    The recent COVID pandemic also uncovered an additional cost for those cheap Chinese products: an uncertain and unstable supply chain of PPE and pharmaceutical goods subject to the whims of Xi Xin Ping.

    Additionally, the cost to the global environment from the outsourcing of industry to China is nearly incalculable, as China emits 3 times as many greenhouse gasses as well as polluting the oceans over 20 times the rate of the USA.

    While I can appreciate your "so sad, too bad" analysis, I am not convinced.
  • ILikePie5
    ILikePie5 avatar
    Debates: 0
    Forum posts: 6,898
    3
    5
    9
    ILikePie5 avatar
    ILikePie5
    --> @Trent0405
    I can say these same things about Trump. I wouldn't, but if Biden is a rascist and a rapist then so is Trump.
    Trump being both has nothing to do with Biden. If you support a racist and rapist even if the other person is the same, it says a lot about your morals.
  • sadolite
    sadolite avatar
    Debates: 0
    Forum posts: 642
    3
    2
    4
    sadolite avatar
    sadolite
    --> @Trent0405
    What people say has no relevance to what they do and the results of what they do. Biden talks and blows smoke up your ass and tells you what you want to hear but does nothing. Trump does things and gets results. I don't give a damn if he talks in a way that steps on peoples feelings and makes them cry. I'll definitely be voting for Trump. Biden doesn't give two shits about the working man and the taxpayer.  Biden is about covering Biden's ass.
  • Dr.Franklin
    Dr.Franklin avatar
    Debates: 32
    Forum posts: 8,868
    4
    7
    11
    Dr.Franklin avatar
    Dr.Franklin
    trump.
  • Dr.Franklin
    Dr.Franklin avatar
    Debates: 32
    Forum posts: 8,868
    4
    7
    11
    Dr.Franklin avatar
    Dr.Franklin
    also I though you were conservative