The Truth About Corporate America

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  • Crocodile
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    *WARNING*
    Profanity and vulgar language. DO NOT WATCH IF YOU ARE UNDER 18.


    I think this guy makes some really good points, profanity aside.

    watch the whole video
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    --> @ebuc @Intelligence_06 @RationalMadman @sadolite @TheDredPriateRoberts
    see above
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    Wow, you just discouraged anyone under 18 to watch it, then brought a 14 year old to the thread.
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    I have seen too much people who curses in every single conversation so I learned to filter them out. I guess I can watch it now, and I will stop only when I cannot hold on anymore.
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    I pretty much agree with them. Again I dislike the far right. I am liberal-centre.
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    you may think the points are good, but consider this if you will, as per Dave Ramsey and other financial advisers you should have an emergency fund for things JUST LIKE THIS.  This guy is a comedian I've heard his videos before, but he would have us beholden to the government, he sounds like a socialist which I am not, at all.  When you take a loan, use a c.c. you entered into a contract freely and agreed to the terms and conditions, but now government should step in because you didn't save enough for emergencies, you spent beyond your means, you purchase a house too expensive?

    sorry but he didn't have any worth while intelligent points.

    When I lived in N.Y. ever paycheck came out 60 cents for unemployment insurance.  I'd be fine if states did a group plan something like that for people to opt into.  We obviously couldn't trust them to run it correctly and use the funds appropriately, but the idea is sound imo.

    all this money has to be paid back at some point, the government WILL take it back, but why should I have to pay for others lack of planning and over spending?

    government dependence is so dangerous and people just don't understand.
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    ...IDK, no real substance here. I probably tilt toward his side but this a complicated issue with a lot of disagreement amongst economists.

    ""The balance of federal and local government support to address the economic impact of the crisis has thus far been tilted too much towards supporting firms rather than individuals.""
    Economists said...
    Agree 29%--Uncertain 50%--Disagree 18%
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    god that sub is awful
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    Yes the "truth" There is no such thing anymore.
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    ..."Yes the "truth" There is no such thing anymore."...

    False.  Economics having nothing to do with real wealth.  Economimcs is game of cards ---cash---   for the powerful to divide and exploit Earth irreplaceable resources.

    Without the powerful being considerate of Universal standard of living, ---and how that plays out for Earths resources---  humanity will not see any signifcant change in any projections of their long term survival on Earth.

    Plenty of truth exists, but they remain hidden so  irrelevant  to most humanity.
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    Is that the truth? Would you swear your eyes on it.
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    I post what I believe, on the best knowledge I have. Swear ones eyes is stupid, irrespective of topic.

    You sound like some religious fundamentalist type with that kind of talk.


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    What you "believe" ? That was a fast exit from "the truth" The only truth I know is what I don't like and do like. I wouldn't put much faith on anything outside of that. But that's just me. I've  heard nine versions of everything on every subject.  As far as what I believe about any kind of govt or fiscal policy not working, pretty much the same for all, a complete and total failure to enforce the rule of law and a total failure to severely punish those who break the law.

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    What I  believe to be the truth. A few ignorant ones, have accused me of making false statements on rare occasions.

    In Fullers 1969 book 'Utopia or Oblivion"  --a collection of essay or talks he gave--- he states that if all governments cease to exist, humanity would carry on just fine with out them.  Here's the rub, the beginnings of government would shortly follow after word, since humans want order in their lives. 

    That  desire for order comes from  a morality base.  Fairness, justice, liberty/freedom etc.

    I know many relative truths and a few  absolute truths. Truth is a double-edged sword and can do good or bad, depending on which side of the fence our perspective is coming from.

     Fuller stated that some of the earliest money was probably the moon shaped metal { bronze? } found in some ancient ship wrecks of the Minoan culture.  The moon shape actually being associated more with bull horns, as they worship the bull and gold.   Barter cows and sheep in ships was a heavy messy burden, whereas metal was less of a burden and people needed metal of tools and weapons.

    .."What you "believe" ? That was a fast exit from "the truth" The only truth I know is what I don't like and do like. I wouldn't put much faith on anything outside of that. But that's just me. I've  heard nine versions of everything on every subject.  As far as what I believe about any kind of govt or fiscal policy not working, pretty much the same for all, a complete and total failure to enforce the rule of law and a total failure to severely punish those who break the law."
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    "he states that if all governments cease to exist, humanity would carry on just fine with out them. " I "believe" this to be half true. Only people who can handle the huge burden of personal responsibility that comes with being free of govt would fair well in a world without govt.  It is my opinion that freedom doesn't work for 90% of people. They cant cope with the idea that everything in life and everything that happens to them is their own personal responsibility to deal with. They cant fathom not having someone  to bail them out when they make horrible life choices and having someone to blame for their lot in life.  Freedom isn't for everyone, it's only for the rare and  few rugged individualists who ask nothing from no one, and have a code of honor among men that shall never be broken lest ye die for doing so. Those are the only kind of people that could live without govt. 
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    "he states that if all governments cease to exist, humanity would carry on just fine with out them. " I "believe" this to be half true. Only people who can handle the huge burden of personal responsibility that comes with being free of govt would fair well in a world without govt.  It is my opinion that freedom doesn't work for 90% of people. They cant cope with the idea that everything in life and everything that happens to them is their own personal responsibility to deal with. They cant fathom not having someone  to bail them out when they make horrible life choices and having someone to blame for their lot in life.  Freedom isn't for everyone, it's only for the rare and  few rugged individualists who ask nothing from no one, and have a code of honor among men that shall never be broken lest ye die for doing so. Those are the only kind of people that could live without govt. 
  • Crocodile
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    why do u guys always talk in really sophisticated sentences

    and use long ass words
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    Because, I would like for you, as a person living in most likely The United States of America, especially being portrayed to have unfair tax and corporate policies, to illustrate to me, as a person living also within the boundaries of the United States, of why sophisticated orations should be discouraged within the internet site DebateArt.com that we are using at the present point of the spacetime flow.
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    Short version: why
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    Because they paid attention at school.

    Though "sophisticated sentences" is something of a contradiction.
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    Half true is half untrue......Though you are correct, natural hierarchy will always eventually prevail.....So  better to have a fairly reasonable social system that offers opportunity, rather than an absolute them and us system, where you do as you are told.

    And comedians are in it for the money just like everyone else.