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@ILikePie5
Dam YouTube video , but at least 20 Americans didn't die, win win
Black diversity according to Joe Biden
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@HistoryBuff
ok, are you expecting me to be outraged that Obama didn't push for war?
As usual, history is not your friend. This discussion with Russian Pres Medvedev was not about pushing for war. In fact, it was at a nuclear arms disarmament conference in SoKo in March, 2012, during the election primary season of Oba'a's re-election. Reference understanding matters, and you just failed.
Trump inherited the booming economy Obama built
Booming? The market had barely reached the level it had during the Bush 43 admin before the crash in Oct 2008. When Trump took office, the GDP was at 1.9%. Oba'a had already declared that we should get used to 2% GDP. Not to mention that while it first appears that during Oba'a, the market [by DJIA] rose 10,000 points, it also lost 6,000 points; a net 4,000 points, total net gain. What "booming?"
Benghazi. Why do you think this issue matters?
Thank you, Hillaryous Balloon Girl. What it matters is that we lost 4 Americans; one of them an Ambassador.
The only way to stop them is through diplomacy.
Thank You, Neville Chamberlain. As I said, history is not your friend. Stop pretending it is.
more stupid shit
History is still not your friend.
1. Every president since Clinton promised to move the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem. Only one did. Trump
2. Meeting NoKo face-to-face has been the desire of every president since Truman. One did. Trump.
3. Since Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act [reluctantly] in 1964, no president has achieve the lowest unemployment rate of blacks, and all minorities, in fact, as Trump has.
4. Since WWII, the US has had the goal of energy independence, but no previous president has achieved it. Trump has.
5. Since Johnson started the war on poverty, no president since has reached the low percentage of poverty we had until the Covid-19 crisis. Trump did.
6. Since Kennedy's promise to put a man on the moon and return him safely to the earth, no president since has furthered the exploration of space to seriously consider landing on another planet, and certainly not Oba'a, who cancelled putting our own astronauts into space. One did. Trump. We're going to Mars, not to mention the moon, again. And we are, once again, putting our own astronauts into space. And we have created a new arm of the military, devoted to space, the new frontier.
Yeah, that;'s all some stupid shit. At least a stupid suggestion that it is.
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@TheUnderdog
There is not much we can do about domestic radical ideologies except for what we already do: use our free speech to criticize the heck out of their free speech.
But for potential immigrants, they are not citizens. They do not have 1st Amendment protection. We have the right to be selective about who enters. I propose a lax system: all can enter as long as they share a love for our country and its values. This is a basic request that all civilized nations should have, or they will suffer internal strife. (Look at Austria-Hungary, the Ottoman Empire, etc. Some diversity in opinion is good for a nation, but diversity in basic national values is not).
And there is the difference between policy difference and value difference. Back when our national identity was not being attacked at all angles, Democrats simply held policy differences. They still loved America, capitalism and the American dream, they wanted immigrants to be legal, and they wanted to fight Communism. Only recently has the rational left been destroyed and replaced with radical anti-Americans.
We need a return to sanity. We need the rational left back. And we need to get a handle on the foreign ideologies pouring into our nation.
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@fauxlaw
Okay, Biden supporters, do you want to make a valid apology for Joe Biden? Something like he really did not say, "Unlike the African American community, with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community with incredibly diverse attitudes about different things,"
OK let's take a look.
First of all, let's note that Biden said something similar twice in one day:
- in an interview with the National Association of Black Journalists and the National Association of Hispanic Journalists that aired on August 6.
Lulu Garcia-Navarro: (32:41)
No. No. Are you going to reengage with Cuba though? I mean, I’m specifically wondering about the Florida communities that are incredibly interested in the Cuba issue and see status given to Venezuelans while Cubans are being deported. So will you engage with Cuba?
Joe Biden: (33:03)
The answer is yes. Yes. Yes. And by the way, what you all know, but most people don’t know, unlike the African American community with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community, with incredibly different attitudes about different things. You go to Florida, you find a very different attitude about immigration in certain places than you do when you’re in Arizona. So it’s a very different, a very diverse community.
- and a couple of hours later, in a speech before the National Association of Latino Elected Officials Conference
That’s what we’re going to do, dignity, honor, treating people with dignity. We can build a new administration that reflects the full diversity of our nation, and the full diversity of the Latino communities. Now, when I mean full diversity, unlike the African-American community and many other communities, you’re from everywhere. They’re from Europe, from the tip of South America, all the way to our border in Mexico and in the Caribbean. And different backgrounds. Different ethnicities, but all Latinos. We’re going to get a chance to do that if we win in November. It means we need everyone to get out and vote. I can’t do this without your help.
Biden tweeted an ammendment two hours after the second interview:
@JoeBiden
Earlier today, I made some comments about diversity in the African American and Latino communities that I want to clarify. In no way did I mean to suggest the African American community is a monolith—not by identity, not on issues, not at all.
7:03 PM · Aug 6, 2020
@JoeBiden
Throughout my career I've witnessed the diversity of thought, background, and sentiment within the African American community. It's this diversity that makes our workplaces, communities, and country a better place.
@JoeBiden
My commitment to you is this: I will always listen, I will never stop fighting for the African American community and I will never stop fighting for a more equitable future.
- Politically speaking, I think its fair to criticize both comments on the grounds of unforced error- neither argument was improved by contrast to African-American diversity.
- Some Biden supporters tried to re-characterize the remarks in an exclusively political context but Biden's second remark suggests a larger cultural context.
- Nevertheless, Biden's characterization is generally true: the label Latino-Americans describes a far more diverse group, culturally or politically, than the group labeled African Americans. Consider:
- Of the 12.6% of United States residents who identified as black, around 10.3 (almost 82%) identify ethnically as African Americans- that is, descended from the 757,208 African Americans listed on the first US Census when they comprised 1 in 5 of all Americans and were mostly slaves. The majority of these were not immigrants themselves and many were already fifth and sixth generation Americans. More than 90% of these Americans lived in the South.
- So that's a population of roughly 40 million who all trace their ancestry back 10 generations to a population smaller than Austin, TX, very nearly all of whom came from the Southern states in 1790 with the same history of enslavement, practicing the same set of menial jobs, same socioeconomic status, same education (none), same food, etc. Let's recall that erasure of prior African cultural history was strictly, violently enforced to the extent that most of even that original population could not say from what African tribe or region they descended.
- Roughly 85% of African American have voted democratic on presidential tickets since 1964.
- By contrast, more than a third Latino Americans were born in another country. More than 40 nationalities identify as Latino or Hispanic and people who identify as such come from any and every race.
- If we trace the ancestry of today's nearly 60 million Latino Americans back 10 generations we find a base of more than 35 million people (pop. Spanish+Portuguese Empires, a very rough number that doesn't include many native populations) spread out across five continents from every possible socioeconomic distinction (Spain generally enforced 16 racial castas in their overseas colonies). Whether you are descended from African slaves or Aztec miners or Filipino fishermen or Argentine Guachos or Queen Isabella you are Latino. Queen Elizabeth II and Carmelo Anthony share a common Latino ancestry.
- Unlike African-Americans, the Latino American vote ranges from 55/35 Democratic to 70-30- a swing that can win or lose national elections on a whole but has to be won community by community, region to region.
- So yeah, like the Black Journalists at the first presser or the Latino politicians at the second speech, I recognize the general truth in Biden's remark and don't have much problem with it beyond political ineptitude.
- If I were speculate regarding Biden's aim, I note that Florida's Cuban-American voting bloc was well represented at both events. 20% of Cuban Americans have left the Republican party since 2004 and now identify as Independent and both Obama and Clinton were able to capture the majority of that independent segment (while still losing the overall Cuban American vote). I'm not sure that the Cuban American vote is achievable in Florida, but if Biden can re-create Obama numbers in Hialeah, then Biden has a real shot at taking Florida, which by itself represents electoral victory.
- The TL;DR amounts to Biden pandering to the Miami Cubans. Any pundit hoping these comments might impact Biden's numbers in the Black vote is entirely deluded.
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@oromagi
Earlier today, I made some comments about diversity in the African American and Latino communities that I want to clarify. In no way did I mean to suggest the African American community is a monolith—not by identity, not on issues, not at all.
This "apology" is no better than the original two commentaries, and is an entire 180 from the former two, because the former two described nothing but a monolith. Yes, I understand that most blacks in this country have generations of "American" in them before they reach African descent, but that's not the point. Why did he even need to make the comparison? He was describing Latino diversity. Leave it the bloody hell at that. Why even mention black diversity, or his monolithic view of it? If this were a unique set of comments on this subject, that would be one thing, but Biden is a chronic foot-in-mouth buffoon who cannot get out of his own way relative to any ethnicity. No 7-11 without an Indian accent. Really???? He's been like this for the 48 years of his public life, and y'all give him a pass because he's a good ol' boy Democrat, who has, himself, abandoned the Democrat Party for a full-on socialist. This guy can't wear a three-dollar suit without soiling it further. Sorry, I left Hair back in the 60s. Too bad Biden cannot.
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@fauxlaw
Monolithic describes cancel culture liberals well.
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@Greyparrot
Yes. Cancel culture is just 'fundamentally change America' by new description, but it all says the same thing: monolithic. A one-track mind. That's progressivism; progress into what has already been tried for centuries, and failed.
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@fauxlaw
Definitely a my way or the highway. No diversity of thought whatsoever.