Bastard States Mafia Endgame

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  • warren42
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    Honestly I feel like this game was more balanced than I expected. I figured balance wasn't a huge issue since it's bastard so I wasn't meticulous in my analysis of balance. I figured 3 mafia vs 9 town was a bit too much for mafia, so I added the lost wolf to make it a bit harder for them.

    Disc immediately picked up on the thing Lunatic did (though it was kinda obvious I guess) but he also independently came up with the Lunatic claiming lyncher plan, called speed as doc, and there was something else too. All around great play.

    Also, he did watch speed visit Supa with the telescope. Oro's powers were
    • Vest: 1x bp
    • Telescope: 1x watcher
    • Ballot: 1x extra vote
    • Duct Tape: 1x roleblock
    Lunatic I have no idea why you did what you did with the counterclaim.

    Town MVP in my opinion was oro, he used the telescope to town confirm himself to disc and force disc to acknowledge as much, then gave supa the 1xbp which was never used but still a solid move. His day play was also good.

    Scum MVP was Disc. I don't think I've ever played scum with him but I want to.


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    Oro played a good game overall

    I should've used cop better.

    I had the scum as top 3
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    For anyone who wasnt around when shit went down last dp this is basically what happened 

    Flying Dutchmen: ilikepie 

    The Black Pearl: supadudz 

    Beckett: me 
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    i woulda done alot of things differently but i had a hell of a time 

    gg 
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    I honestly had Supa in my scum pile. Outing himself as cop but never getting killed or giving useful results seemed fishy.
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    Scum PM for anyone that is curious:

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    --> @Speedrace
    I knew you were doc from DP1 lol
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    --> @SupaDudz
    I should've used cop better.
    You understand why copping lunatic wasn't great now right?

    AFAIK that was the only cop mistake you made.
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    Also, he did watch speed visit Supa with the telescope.
    I would have argued this was the case if town didn't just insta-lynch me without thinking.
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    --> @Discipulus_Didicit
    He tried copping you, cookie, pie, pie in that order I believe. I dunno I didn't bother keeping track since you guys just roleblocked him each night
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    I linked the scum PM mostly because lunatic had some strong opinions regarding the game that he was unable to express because of his self-ban and linking the PM gives a chance for some of his opinions to be heard. My opinions on the game:

    Lynching lunatic after croc flipped tiwn was not necessarily the wring move but the way it was done was less than optimal. Supa at one point in DP 2 said something like "I am open to discussing the game before lynching but I want to lynch lunatic". That is how the DP should have gone, but it isn't actually how it went. Those were just empty words from supa as he actually just wanted to lynch lunatic and I was scum read for pointing that out.

    Scum reading me for "buddying lunatic" was retarded.

    Lynching me after speed flipped town seems at face value to be impulsive and stupid but was actually the correct move, though again there should have been discussion. There is never any good reason to end a 3 day DP after 2 after 2 hours. I claimed to see speed visit supa, which after speed flipped town was obviously true so no reason to think I was lying about that, but I also claimed to not see anyone else, which meant that either I was lying about that (which I was) or supa was lying about being blocked (hence lying about being cop hence scum).

    Lynching cookie in the last DP was obviously correct. He barely even played the game lol.
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    --> @warren42
    He tried copping you, cookie, pie, pie in that order I believe. I dunno I didn't bother keeping track since you guys just roleblocked him each night
    In that case he used his role correctly except for the lunatic cop.
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    --> @Discipulus_Didicit
    “As me as scum victory is assured”

    You are incorrect brotha
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    --> @Discipulus_Didicit
    You and Cookie were always scum. I was null on Cookie and wanted to investigate him so I’d make sure town
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    --> @Discipulus_Didicit
    I had no intent of lynching BearMan because I was hard tunneling you
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    Added 08.10.20 07:03AM
    --> @oromagi
    You're Nevada aren't you?
    Iron Man was so ironic-
    alien, vibranium, electronic
    but no iron... what the hell
    what  Iron Man was- that's the tell

    My ROLE was compulsive INVENTOR.  I had that exact same ROLE earlier in the year- Ragnar's first game if I remember right. 

    So, what Iron Man was is INVENTOR.
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    You are incorrect brotha
    I failed to take into account one of my scum buddies commiting suicide and the other not playing until the last DP lol.
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    --> @Discipulus_Didicit @SupaDudz @warren42
    what's the dope on TUF?  is he all right?
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    --> @oromagi
    He only ever joined for the mafia and he has decided that he likes live mafia better than forum mafia (there are some weekly games of live mafia every Friday night you may have heard) so has no reason to continue on the site
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    Idek. I’m a bit PO’d that he decided to stay some of that stuff without directly telling me firsthand
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    --> @SupaDudz
    Well the game was still ongoing so...
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    thx

    there are some weekly games of live mafia every Friday night you may have heard

    funny because hearing was the problem when I tried to join last Friday.  I am hard of hearing and I think I need to set up a different computer if I'm going to join- I can't get it loud enough on my phone.  Is it just audio?

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    The fact that he left and closed account bothers me more. If he said that endgame to me directly, I’d debate him and go on. The fact it was said behind me is what is stinging

    It’s small and tbh I don’t care that much to get myself worked up over something like that, but something about it didn’t sit right with me
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    As far as I remember this is my second loss as scum, though my first loss was when I was a cult leader and one of my own cultists outted me... not sure if that counts.
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    --> @oromagi
    There’s a button on the phone that increases the volume. If you click the sound button on phone it makes the players louder