How pro life (or pro choice) are you on abortion?

I'd say I support legalizing abortion before 6 weeks.  After that, ban it.  Also, I want to focus on expanding contraception access to reduce abortions.

I don't see a zygote as human, but a fetus is human; their cells have already specialized.  This isin't the case for a zygote or an embryo.

Thoughts on this DARTers?

i like the idea of banning abortion after the heart starts beating and brain waves form. those indicators are used to measure the end of life... it could be used to measure the beginning too. the thing about brain waves though, is that there's just simple electrical activity at first, and i wouldn't be sure of when to 'count' the beginning of brain waves. 

Brain waves are first detected at most 6 weeks in from what I've read.

i read that it's not considered a fetus until like ten weeks, tho. on the other hand there's movement starting around eight weeks. 

i definitely say when the fetus feels pain is way past due to ban abortion, generally. 

complete ban except womens life/serious health risk

Amen

Prenatal life has no value. Suck their brains out and throw them in to the garbage. Bye bye little guy!

yup!

Selective morality is a tad hypocritical.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/pregnancy-week-by-week/in-depth/prenatal-care/art-20045302#:~:text=Week%206%3A%20The%20neural%20tube,the%20heart%20begins%20to%20beat. says it's 6 weeks into pregnancy.

No; just no.

what now

What what?

what what what

I want that! Except with communists instead.

Really, the only consistent argument would be at conception, outside of the mother dying from giving birth.

Anything else like "viability" or "sentience" is just arbitrary criteria.

Either all innocent lives matter or none of them do.

Ah but conception itself is not a point in time, but a process of merging of nuclear material. Lets have a look:

Where are we to draw the line here?

Whenever they would be classified as one cell instead of multiple, scientifically speaking. That fusion of the gametes indicates that a new organism was created, and thus that is a new life, different from either parent.

The war on fetuses must be won.

That isn't a fair fight! Give them 25 years to reach the peak of their abilities, then try to kill them!

This is precisely why it is necessary to launch a preemptive strike.

Depends how you choose to look at things.

Some might rightly argue......A new life similar to both parents and not yet separate from, and dependant upon the mother.....Therefore, wholly the mother's responsibility.

And nothing whatsoever to do with a load of pious believers of nonsense....As I said, that's just one way of looking at it....Other options are available.

That's cheating! Against the Geneva convention!

What do you mean by responsibility? Do you mean that because of dependence, she should get to choose if she kills it or not?

A conception, they have DNA, but so does a cancer cell.  I therefore would draw the line at 6 weeks in, when the cells specialize.