Other than Mopac and myself who else here is a Gnostic Theist?

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    Truly God is real, communicates with us and is directly involved.

    Deists are welcome to admit they are Gnostic in their belief of God here but please do not use this thread to talk about God being non-involved or uncaring, this is about who truly knows God is there I am curious to talk to such individuals as I have had life-altering experiences and it's not emotions, it's actual logic to it too.
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    Truly God is real, communicates with us and is directly involved.
    yep.

    I don't think I've heard the term "gnostic theist" before.

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    After your little temper tantrum for no reason in the other thread I don't know why you want to discuss anything. But call me scumbag again for no reason and I will be reporting it. 
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    You just threatened me with mod action which is against the threat rules.
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    Yep as in mhmmm or you agree?
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    I agree.
  • Mopac
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    Rationalmadman you still have me blocked, so I can't respond to your posts.
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    Gnostic or epignostic?

    Greek lesson

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    you are unblocked but please stop saying 'god is truth'. God is 'true' and a part of 'truth' but god is not truth itself because god could lie, for instance and things other than god are true such as the statement 'god is real'.
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    I am not talking about god, I am talking about God.

    So you are off the mark.

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    You're fussing over the case of one letter? I'm more interested in your response to the substance of his post.
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    Not fussing at all. 

    What is there to respond to? I am here to participate.

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    I'd like to hear what you think about "god is not truth itself because god could lie".
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    I am here to participate.
    Participate = Preach

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    Truly God is real, communicates with us and is directly involved.

    Where is your evidence for that outrageous claim?
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    Is it true that there are lies?

    Of course God is The Truth itself. If you want to hear the case for that, I am currently in a debate with the OP



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    Of course God is The Truth itself.
    Then why does God not appear in the definition of truth and truth does not appear in the definition of God?

    The Dictionary has failed you on this one. God is not the truth and the truth is not God.

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    Is it true that there are lies?

    Of course God is The Truth itself. If you want to hear the case for that, I am currently in a debate with the OP


    It's true that there are lies, yes.
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    Then even lies exist in truth, and in no way do lies undermine God as being The Ultimate Reality and Truth.

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    Deists are welcome to admit they are Gnostic in their belief of God here but please do not use this thread to talk about God being non-involved or uncaring, this is about who truly knows God is there I am curious to talk to such individuals as I have had life-altering experiences and it's not emotions, it's actual logic to it too.
    What is your definition of Gnostic?

    Do you deny the real living person of Jesus Christ and His physical bodily resurrection from the dead?


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    I do not care if that really happened or not. Christ is the anti Christ in the first place. The Bible is a cryptic, self-contradictory tale of how the Devil can out-persuade, outsmart and threaten the supreme reign of an omnipotent, omniscient god.
    God IS the devil, god is sadistic and seductive and the son of the devil (anti-christ) is meant to bring the downfall to the very guy who engineered his own persecution and execution.

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    I do not care if that really happened or not. Christ is the anti Christ in the first place. The Bible is a cryptic, self-contradictory tale of how the Devil can out-persuade, outsmart and threaten the supreme reign of an omnipotent, omniscient god.
    God IS the devil, god is sadistic and seductive and the son of the devil (anti-christ) is meant to bring the downfall to the very guy who engineered his own persecution and execution.

    So you are not interested in the historical Jesus. 

    Your thinking is most confusing. How can Jesus be the Christ and the anti-Christ?

    So, your views are not biblical, in the least. You have some mystical experience that you want me to believe is a revelation of God to you. There are many who are in the nut house with the same kind of delusions. 

    How can God be the devil?

    The biblical God is not sadistic or seductive. He plainly expresses what is wrong. That is a reason why people rebel against His commands (i.e., The Ten Commandments). He judges those who do wrong. 

    Since you made all these assertions back them up if you can with more than hearsay, then I will address a few of them. Please do not copy and paste links but if you use links provide the gist of what you want me to glean from them. 
  • RationalMadman
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    Being condemned by society and thrown into an asylum in no way at all proves the person incorrect.

    You think that Christians who have experienced God are less or more delusional than Satanists or Muslims who've done the same?

    The experience is deducted to be a hallucination if most of society would rather the person be wrong than right, there's nothing more to what differentiates those in the asylum from those free to say they know what's real or not.

    Aside from that, it makes a lot of sense. You see when they talk first of Antichrist, John refers to it as a group of people who deny and/or oppose Christ and who is that embraced that's group as having the right to crucify him? It was Jesus himself. The later it's hinted that Antichrist is the direct offspring of the Devil much like Jesus is to God and it's said Jesus will return after the downfall but this was written before, not after, the chronological order that later had the ghost return.

    God is severely sadistic. Who made hell and the devil? Who is that says love me, tell me I'm the sexiest, smartest, most good, infallible being or I torture you eternally?

    Read the Bible with the outlook that there is no good guy and it will fascinate you.




  • Mopac
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    Gnosticism is heresy for good reason. People who put their faith in science falsely so called stray away from the faith and end up believing some very strange things.



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    People who put their faith in science falsely so called stray away from the faith and end up believing some very strange things.
    Strange things like... reality? Or, perhaps all the things science has provided you that you take advantage of every day of your life, like your computer, internet connection and these forums, as relevant examples?

    Or, are you living in a cave?