Apparently the justification is that I use sensory underground attacks to find my opponent's position
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I don't particularly disagree with BM's logic but the fact that he unvoted Luna for no specified reason is scummy to me
2. MisterChris - Null, hasn't posted enough substantial stuff
3. Crocodile - Null, inactive
4. skittlez09 - Null, not substantial posts
5. warren42 - Null, inactive
6. Lunatic - Null, can't yet tell if he has
7. iLikePie5 - Lean town, typical Pie play and I agree with his reads
8. whiteflame - Null, lurking
9. Bearman - Lean scum for unspecified unvoting
10. Danielle - Null, hard to read
11. Greyparrot - Town, full claim and justification makes sense
Apparently the justification is that I use sensory underground attacks to find my opponent's position
For non-ATLA fans this is true
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@ILikePie5
I dont trust speed.
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@BearMan
vague can u give something more specific like what it says?
ik u cant literally copy an paste it but paraphrasing it is fine
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@Greyparrot
I dont trust speed.
No one trusts me :(
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@Speedrace
I voted him for no specfied reason, then I unvoted him because I didn't have a reason to vote him
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@BearMan
I voted him for no specfied reason, then I unvoted him because I didn't have a reason to vote him
Lol you gave a ton of reasons for your vote on him. Why are you acting like you didn't?
BearMan can probably prove himself though (unless he's a scum tracker??)
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@Speedrace
vtl lunaticWhy are you so dead-on about lynching someone who liked your post? Are you tryna get a mislynch?
Not that many reasons. One weak one, and it's a bit of a stretch to say he's mafia
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@skittlez09
BearMan- You are Toph. You are blind, and despite your parents, you go with Aang and his group. You are good at earthending and also are good at metal bending. Using sensory from underground attacks, you can determine your opponent's position. You are a Tracker. Each night you may choose someone to track, and you will know who they go to. You win with town.
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@BearMan
That's what doesn't make sense though. You talked incessantly about the reasons why you thought he was scum for like two pages and then randomly unvoted him and gave no reason why. What changed your mind
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@Speedrace
I never said he was scum, I said he was sus.
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@BearMan
Replace scum with sus then
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@Speedrace
Sus doesn't mean scum
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@BearMan
That's what doesn't make sense though. You talked incessantly about the reasons why you thought he was sus for like two pages and then randomly unvoted him and gave no reason why. What changed your mind
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@Speedrace
Because he wasn't sus enough for a lynch.
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@Danielle
@Speedrace
8. whiteflame - Null, lurking
Accurate. I'm honestly just enjoying the exchanges. Btw, I'll take Danielle's advice for now:
Even someone pressuring me for rambling so much would be useful or indicative of giving af
VTL Danielle
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@whiteflame
I'm just wondering what your reads are so far
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@Speedrace
No one's sus to me yet, but BearMan's moves appear pretty odd to me, and much as I do think that Danielle is mainly just trying to get things moving, I'm unsure of her other motivations for all this posting. I do think ILikePie5 is Town, but everyone else I'm uncertain about.
Mod Update: BearMan has not committed a violation
(this isn't indicative of his affiliation and role, but I thought I'd make it clear)
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@whiteflame
No one's sus to me yet, but BearMan's moves appear pretty odd to me, and much as I do think that Danielle is mainly just trying to get things moving, I'm unsure of her other motivations for all this posting. I do think ILikePie5 is Town, but everyone else I'm uncertain about.
I agree on Bear and Pie, Danielle is hard to read overall. I've seen her as both scum and town and she has consistent play, although usually I agree with her logic when we're both town and I don't here
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@Speedrace
I agree with her logic when we're both town and I don't here
And yet you don't feel the need to make a single post specifying how you disagree with my logic. Interesting. Sounds like you just wanna FOS with no substance.
Gonna keep my vote on you and I think everyone else should vote for you too - unless the town wants to commit to NL despite having more than 24 hours left. I'm fine with that since I don't expect much analysis anyway.
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@Danielle
And yet you don't feel the need to make a single post specifying how you disagree with my logic. Interesting. Sounds like you just wanna FOS with no substance.
1. You believe that we can find scum based on the post like. I don't. I've already said this
2. I read you null?
It's a bit more fundamental then that though, because I don't understand why anything I've said means I should claim anything. I freely gave the town information that I didn't have to, that info being public only hurts mafia. At the very most it should be a null read. I mean I can claim but I would at least like to hear a valid reason for me to do so. Pie hasn't given one. It's completely based on WIFOM that makes no sense at all, and doesn't consider the option that I am being truthful. He could literally cut and paste the same case against a cop who outted guilty results and say he didn't believe them. It's pure WIFOM. And speed is probably scum (he frequently omguses as mafia also, so im really not surprised he is voting me here). But if you think I should claim at all, even if it is day phase 2, please at least provide an elaborate reason as to why.
It's not because I think that anything you did is inherently scummy. To the contrary, I think that you had an overall townie play here. However, this would be the perfect way to signal to mafia that you were with them. Essentially this is pro-town, but the role is unique which is cause for concern and the fact that though pro-town, you're playing this exactly how I'd expect you to do it regardless of affiliation.
On top of that you said you would not be claiming until after D1, so that implied to me that D2 you were prepared to full claim.
It also does depend, obviously, on assuming that the third mafia knows their teammates and that the teammates do not know them. I've seen variations where the loner knows but the PM mafia don't, the PM mafia know the loner but the loner doesn't know them, where neither knows, or where both know.
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@Speedrace
1. You believe that we can find scum based on the post like. I don't. I've already said this
Gotcha. Please explain which of the following points of mine you disagree with:
A) While 'liking' that post was not inherently scummy at all, the fact that nobody admitted to being the one to liking it is odd. Why not just admit to it since multiple people have said it's not scummy?
B) It takes between 4 and 15 seconds to take a screen shot, and had there not been hints posted about how to work with a teammate, it's possible and even likely the person who 'liked' the comment would be found/deduced.
C) Per A, the person who liked the comment is a candidate for pressuring at the very least.
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@warren42
On top of that you said you would not be claiming until after D1, so that implied to me that D2 you were prepared to full claim.
Take that with a grain of salt. Obviously if there was significant pressure on me I would comply with a claim, I just needed to know there was a valid reason aside from satisfying pie's curiosity.
Greyparrot, whiteflame, and croc are all town to varying degrees, lunatic and danielle are also both probably town, but less confident in them
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@Speedrace
D) The person going back and unliking the post, after so much speculation about it, is trying to F with town meaning it's a scum player.
Out of those 4 points, where do you disagree and how do you want to move forward with the day phase?