HUNTER BIDEN, ALL SMOKE AND NO FIRE?

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    HUNTER BIDEN, ALL SMOKE AND NO FIRE?

    I keep hearing that "the REAL story is being censored".

    Please share any information you might have on the subject.

    President Trump on Sunday said the damning information contained on Hunter Biden’s laptop about his business dealings in Ukraine – as The Post revealed last week – is the “REAL DEAL” and cannot be denied.

    “Hunter Biden’s laptop is a disaster for the entire Biden family, but especially for his father, Joe. It is now a proven fact, and cannot be denied, that all of that info is the REAL DEAL,” the president wrote on Twitter. [LINK]
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    Well, there's not much to believe, is there?


    The poor guy can't keep his story straight even for the duration of the interview-

    • The guy keeps saying, "shit I shouldn't have said that" "God I suck at this"
    • He keeps offering provocative details and then as soon as the reporters ask for a corroborating name or number or place, he just says "no comment"
      • Mac's story is that somebody dropped off three laptops and never came back for them, although they contained pornography and incriminating 5 year old emails as unprotected files with direct  links on the desktop.  Really?
        • Mac never saw who dropped them off & Hunter BIden's whereabouts are now well established in April 2019.  He was never in Delaware.
    • Did the FBI contact him?  Did he contact the FBI?   Mac doesn't know.  They took a laptop from him but he didn't have a subpoena, or receipt, or a name or an office or a number to call?  Mac's not sure.....Special Agent something or other, he thinks.
    • Who are all these secret go-betweens to Giuliani and FBI? 
    • When pressed, Mac call Giuliani his "lifeguard" someone who saves you when you're drowning.  So whatever Mac's relationship to Giuliani, we've established that it is Mac who owes Giuliani in this transaction.
      • What does Mac owe Giuliani?
    • Trump's Director of National Intelligence advised Giuliani last November that the people he was getting his information from regarding Biden and Burisma were Russian Intelligence.  When Giuliani persisted, the DNI advised US Govt (and briefed Trump, of course) to be on the look out for Russian manufactured phony Biden &  Burisma documents  Dec 2019.  
      • That is, just from monitoring Russian Intelligence, US intelligence was able to accurately predict Giuliani's move ten months ahead.  Not a great look for "America's Mayor."
      • If  US intelligence can establish that images from either of the Fancy Bear hacks on Burisma were used to create these phony docs, then we have another direct link between Trump's personal lawyer and Russian intelligence, with at least one freaked out nerd who can't keep his story straight in between.  As the Speaker of the House frequently reminds us, with Trump, everything goes back to Russia.

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    Yes lol
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    NEW YORK POST PUBLISHED HUNTER BIDEN REPORT AMID NEWSROOM DOUBTS

    BY KATIE ROBERTSON
    THE NEW YORK TIMES |
    OCT 18, 2020 AT 7:40 PM

    The New York Post’s front-page article about Hunter Biden on Wednesday was written mostly by a staff reporter who refused to put his name on it, two Post employees said.

    Bruce Golding, a reporter at the Rupert Murdoch-owned tabloid since 2007, did not allow his byline to be used because he had concerns over the article’s credibility, the two Post employees said, speaking on the condition of anonymity out of fear of retaliation.

    Coming late in a heated presidential campaign, the article suggested that Joe Biden had used his position to enrich his son Hunter when he was vice president. The Post based the story on photos and documents the paper said it had taken from the hard drive of a laptop purportedly belonging to Hunter Biden.

    Many Post staff members questioned whether the paper had done enough to verify the authenticity of the hard drive’s contents, said five people with knowledge of the tabloid’s inner workings. Staff members also had concerns about the reliability of its sources and its timing, the people said.

    The article named two sources: Stephen Bannon, the former adviser to President Donald Trump now facing federal fraud charges, who was said to have made the paper aware of the hard drive last month; and Rudy Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer, who was said to have given the paper “a copy” of the hard drive on Oct. 11.

    Giuliani said he chose The Post because “either nobody else would take it, or if they took it, they would spend all the time they could to try to contradict it before they put it out.”

    Top editors met on Oct. 11 to discuss how to use the material provided by Giuliani. The group included tabloid veteran Colin Allan, known as Col; Stephen Lynch, The Post’s editor-in-chief; and Michelle Gotthelf, the digital editor-in-chief, according to a person with knowledge of the meeting. Allan, who was The Post’s editor-in-chief from 2001 to 2016 and returned last year as an adviser, urged his colleagues to move quickly, the person said.

    As deadline approached, editors pressed staff members to add their bylines to the story — and at least one aside from Golding refused, two Post journalists said. A Post spokeswoman had no comment on how the article was written or edited.

    Headlined “BIDEN SECRET E-MAILS,” the article appeared Wednesday with two bylines: Emma-Jo Morris, a deputy politics editor who joined the paper after four years at the Murdoch-owned Fox News, and Gabrielle Fonrouge, a Post reporter since 2014.

    Morris did not have a bylined article in The Post before Wednesday, a search of its website showed. She arrived at the tabloid in April after working as an associate producer on Sean Hannity’s Fox News show, according to her LinkedIn profile. Her Instagram account, which was set to private Wednesday, included photos of her posing with the former Trump administration members Bannon and Sarah Huckabee Sanders, as well as Roger Stone, a friend and former campaign adviser to Trump. (In July, the president commuted the sentence of Stone on seven felonies.)

    Fonrouge had little to do with the reporting or writing of the article, said three people with knowledge of how it was prepared. She learned that her byline was on the story only after it was published, the people said.

    The article relied on documents purportedly taken from the hard drive to suggest that the elder Biden, as vice president, had directed U.S. foreign policy in Ukraine to benefit his son, a former board member of Burisma Holdings, a Ukrainian energy company.

    The article also suggested that the elder Biden had met with a Burisma adviser, Vadym Pozharskyi. On Wednesday, a Biden campaign spokesman said that Biden’s official schedules showed no meeting between the former vice president and the adviser. Last month, two Republican-led Senate committees investigating the matter said they had found no evidence of wrongdoing by the former vice president.

    “The senior editors at The Post made the decision to publish the Biden files after several days' hard work established its merit,” Allan said in an email.


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    Biden isn't denying the story, nor is he asking the New York Post for a retraction.

    That's undeniably weird.

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    It's a bit of a weird story full of really suspicious shit. Everyone should be questioning the validity of the story. Even the guy who wrote it refused to have his name on it. But, as far as i know, there isn't anything particularly negative about Joe it there. Certainly nothing criminal. All i've seen about it just humanizes Joe Biden in a way i didn't think would be possible. Him showing how much he loves and supports his son even though has a questionable history. 
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     Everyone should be questioning the validity of the story. 

    Except your Godlike leader Joe Biden is not doing that.
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    Except your Godlike leader Joe Biden is not doing that.
    why would he? whether it's true or not, him responding to it only adds more attention to the story. most people simply don't care about the story. And the ones that are super interested are probably already trump cultists who think Hunter did something criminal in Ukraine. Those types of people probably can't be reached no matter what biden does. 

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    him responding to it only adds more attention to the story.

    And getting the tech giants to censor the information somehow DOESN'T add more attention to the story?
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    If it’s all talk, why was there an official subpoena. We know Hunter is a crackhead. How does a crackhead get a job in a company for 80k a month in an industry he knows nothing about.

    Any objective person can see what’s going on here
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    this clip is nothing. It is conspiracy theory and conjecture. 

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    Biden isn't denying the story,
    False.

    In a statement, Biden campaign spokesman Andrew Bates said, “we have reviewed Joe Biden's official schedules from the time and no meeting, as alleged by the New York Post, ever took place.”

    "Investigations by the press, during impeachment, and even by two Republican-led Senate committees whose work was decried as 'not legitimate' and political by a GOP colleague have all reached the same conclusion: that Joe Biden carried out official U.S. policy toward Ukraine and engaged in no wrongdoing. Trump administration officials have attested to these facts under oath,”


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    nor is he asking the New York Post for a retraction.
    One might ask a journalist for a retraction, but aren't we long past expecting some ethical contrition from Murdoch's minions?
    Does Pravda issue apologies?
    Does the Mouth of Sauron ever beg pardon?
    Trump has played his hand, nakedly demanding Biden's arrest twice this week without bothering to articulate the actual accusation. 
    I don't think Biden's much standing on the old manners any more.
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    How’s Antarctica?
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    How’s Antarctica?
    same as every place else, on fire- worst fires on record, constant smoke, peak Corona, voting early and locking doors

    You are in school in LA, right? How’s LA?  Good month for sports fans
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    Lol, even Andrew Bates wasn't sure if the story was true until he "checked the schedules"

    Too funny.
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    Lol, even Andrew Bates wasn't sure if the story was true until he "checked the schedules"

    Too funny.
    honestly, parts of the info are probably accurate. But that is because Giuliani has been working with a known russian asset (Andriy Derkach) and that is likely where he got the info. The computer repair crap is probably just a story to try to explain how they got the info and hide russian involvement. 

    luckily, the entire scheme seems to be backfiring. 

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    Ukraine won't be able to save Biden this time.

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    Ukraine won't be able to save Biden this time.
    well since it never has before, that sentence makes no sense. Neither Joe nor Hunter are under any legitimate suspicion of criminal acts in or relating to Ukraine.

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    Nobody said Biden lying to the people about placing his son in a position to funnel money to him was criminal.

    The price to pay for such actions is in the court of public elections.
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    Nobody said Biden lying to the people about placing his son in a position to funnel money to him was criminal.
    Nobody except Trump says that because there is nothing to suggest that such an accusation is anything but a bold lie tailored by Russian Intelligence for Trump's political benefit.  Biden's finances are wide open- have been since the 70's - zero evidence of any bribe.

    Trump on the other hand takes bribes daily- literally and has never willingly shared any financial documentation.

    Here is Trump yesterday bragging about how he shakes down corporations.  (Exxon denies this transaction, of course)

    I call the head of Exxon. I don’t know, you know, ‘How are you doing? How’s energy coming? When are you doing the exploration? Oh, you need a couple of permits?'" Trump told supporters. “I say, ‘You know, I’d love [for] you to send me $25 million for the campaign.’ ‘Absolutely sir, why didn’t you ask? Would you like some more?’”

    There's no world where BIden will prove as blatant a corrupt whore as Trump regularly confesses to be.  And going back to Putin for another round of doctored emails is just way less convincing this time around.


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    Nobody said Biden lying to the people about placing his son in a position to funnel money to him was criminal.

    The price to pay for such actions is in the court of public elections.
    pretty much just what oromagi said. But I will add that there is absolutely no evidence Joe was in any way involved in Hunter getting that job. There is no evidence Joe even had any contact or communication about the details of that job. It is also baseless allegations. 

    Trump on the other hand, we know is guilty of using his position to enrich himself and his children. So why are you so hung up on an allegation, which isn't even illegal, that has no evidence to support it; but you have no issue with Trump funneling money to himself and his children?
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    same as every place else, on fire- worst fires on record, constant smoke, peak Corona, voting early and locking doors
    How are Penguins?

    You are in school in LA, right? How’s LA?  Good month for sports fans
    Nah lmao I’ll DM you where I go to school
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    --> @oromagi
    There's no world where BIden will prove as blatant a corrupt whore as Trump regularly confesses to be.  And going back to Putin for another round of doctored emails is just way less convincing this time around.
    Well actually DNI, FBI, and DOJ said it wasn’t a Russian disinformation campaign so 🤷‍♂️