Riddle Mafia - Day Phase 2

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@Mikal
Lynch pool is likely

Magic 
Anon 
Parrot 

My top three town reads lol
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I did read it. Maybe hard is a stretch but you geninuly thought avoiding him was a good idea

Then we're swayed very easily. 

It's almost like coasting. 

Magic also has that habbit where she just rides the waves as scum 

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You don't find her post that I quoted weird at all?

That sticks out to me like a sore thumb. 


I could buy annon as newb town. 


He's either newb town or coasting. One or the other 

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@Mikal
I did read it. Maybe hard is a stretch but you geninuly thought avoiding him was a good idea
You're misinterpreting what I wrote if you think that I was trying to avoid him.
Then we're swayed very easily. 

It's almost like coasting. 
I'm like that in every single game regardless of affiliation. I'm almost invariably indecisive, especially in DP1.
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@Mikal
There is nothing more scummy than misrepresenting people's statements and posts.

1) magic was really willing to vtl pie to test prior to this 
I was always discussing it and its utility and immediately backed away from rushing into it once we determined that the "lynch" would end the DP. I then spent the rest of the DP conversation about the topic noting there was no point to lynching Pie if it would not sort affiliation.  

2) went from that to being willing to vtnl
Weird to suggest a willingness to vote pie (an effective VTNL) and actually VTNL are somehow inconsistent strategies, especially when you know how much i advocate VTNL DP1 from live mafia. 

3) and completely 180ed on her logic prior to this 
Please cite the 180. I literally always said we should lynch Pie if would help sort affiliation. You and Luna disagreed on whether it would and I said it would make no sense to go forward with it if we would have to waste two lynches and argue about it for two DPs. You also are aware from live mafia how much I detest carry over bickering on singular topics over multiple DPs, so your attempt to put shade on me right now, completely ignoring your knowledge of my meta is super scummy. 

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@Mikal
You don't find her post that I quoted weird at all?

That sticks out to me like a sore thumb. 
Her change of opinion on whether I am town is likely a result of my succesful vigilante. But if not, you may have a point. I am open to it, but I don't think there's enough there.
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First dp only 

Not this dp


Re read her initial stance and watch how it changes when she agrees with me 

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@Mikal
Why do you suspect GP?
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@Mikal
You are also familiar with how uncertain I am and how I vacillate as town, so your random read is sketchy.
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And he's unfamiliar with how I do the same.
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If you do not see how scummy it is for Mike to suddenly abandon his scum read on you and attempt to build a random and then just randomly switch to me then there is no hope for you. His reads are so clearly contrived at this point. I literally said you viging Pie as you said you would, was the final straw. Unless someone can give me an explanation for why: 1) the riddle confirmed you and we have confirmed other clues in the riddle, 2) you killed scum, and 3) you literally role claimed and claimed your action and carried it out, and are yet somehow scum, then you're in my town pile. Happy to hear an argument that counters those three points, if someone has one though. 
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@SirAnonymous
Are you saying he should be familiar?
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Announcement time.

I was recruited to the masons

Outing this for the following reasons:

1. Mafia likely already know as I've hitned that I can be confirmed by another player as well. Might as well let town in on the info since mafia have probably inferred it anyway.

2. Our mason recruiter dies upon death, so I kind of have to out this now. The plan will be to publicly announce who we are recruiting by the end of the day phase. That way if I die, and the recruiter dies, you will know who scum is.

I have not discussed this with the mason leader yet, but I am hoping they will understand my reasons for doing this. 

I will say that the person who is the mason recruiter is someone I contrived a read for on my reads list earlier, so as not to let mafia deduce who that person is. That person could be a town tell, null tell, or scum tell. Regardless I will keep the mafia guessing and continue to contrive my read on that person to throw them off of a potential roleblock or kill of the mason recruiter.



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If you do not see how scummy it is for Mike to suddenly abandon his scum read on you and attempt to build a random and then just randomly switch to me then there is no hope for you. His reads are so clearly contrived at this point. I literally said you viging Pie as you said you would, was the final straw. Unless someone can give me an explanation for why:
I agree that his reads seem a bit contrived, but I am not totally sure about you yet either, that's all. Just because I don't agree with the bulk of what he is saying though doesn't mean I am going to dismiss everything mike says. He may be stubborn, but I still think he can be a brilliant townie sometimes. 
I don't completely trust you yet either, and part of the reason WAS because you wanted to lynch me last pahse to test the mod riddle, even though the information wouldn't have done much for town and would have resulted in the death of a power role.

1) the riddle confirmed you and we have confirmed other clues in the riddle, 2) you killed scum, and 3) you literally role claimed and claimed your action and carried it out, and are yet somehow scum, then you're in my town pile. Happy to hear an argument that counters those three points, if someone has one though. 
I obviously agree with this. Literally all I am doing is keeping an open mind.
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For clarity it's not contrived.

Luna will agree with this because he's called you out on the same thing. You have a habbit of just being indecisive as mafia. 

I'm giving reads because luna said I hadn't which was a valid critique. 


I'm also not off luna. There is just no way to get a lynch or build a case. What do I do. Keep tunneling him to have no one listen to just get myself lynched for being stubborn 

Also reading this in iso moved him to null. Danielle had posted something I missed (I never read the op, bad habbit ) that said the "mod would post" 

If I take that literally then the riddle does likely town confirm him

Or she's bastard modding. 


So me beating my ahead against a wall to get nowhere is not helpful 






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Are you saying he should be familiar?
No, this is the first time we've played in the same game.
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Our mason recruiter dies upon death
Umm...what?
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Also reading this in iso moved him to null. Danielle had posted something I missed (I never read the op, bad habbit ) that said the "mod would post" 
Speedrace said this to you in dp1, why are you only now considering this?
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Mason recruiter dies upon recruitment*

Lol sorry for the confusion.
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I was recruited to the masons
Interesting. Does this mean there is more than one? Do you know whether or not the recruiter is town?

1. Mafia likely already know as I've hitned that I can be confirmed by another player as well. Might as well let town in on the info since mafia have probably inferred it anyway.
I missed where you hinted at this, so I am not sure how outing this now helps town, since you were already clearly town. 

2. Our mason recruiter dies upon death, 
What does this mean? Don't we all die upon death?


I will say that the person who is the mason recruiter is someone I contrived a read for on my reads list earlier, so as not to let mafia deduce who that person is
This is unfortunate because as the best town read, we cannot rely as much on your reads now. 
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@Lunatic
That makes a little more sense.
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I didn't fully iso and missed a lot. Said I was skimming. 
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1) this has to be true (mason thing )

2) mafia had a recruit with judas ,  so I buy it 

3) why in the fuck would they recruit you as town if everyone other than me thought of you as confirmed 
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Fuck it. 

Can we vtnl and have you vig me tonight?

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@Mikal
He's only an odd-night vig. He said that earlier this DP.
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I want to poe this game down 

I'm adrenaline junkie. If I die at night , I stay around for one extra day 

And die during the next np


I'm going to get pushed as a mislynch , would rather get shot to self confirm. 

Confirms us both and you can recruit someone else 

(Say who you go for )

Game is over poe wise 


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F also missed the odd night compulsory.

No reason not to out anyway. I won't be the target of a nk cus I'm the easy mislynch 



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Based on supas soft claim. I suspect there is a lot of "staying around after death"
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@LikeMagic
Interesting. Does this mean there is more than one? Do you know whether or not the recruiter is town?
There's only two so far including me. I am 100% certain the recruiter is town. Danielle basically confirmed it when I asked her a question about if the recruiter dies upon recruiting scum, she said yes. If the recruiter is scum, then Danielle is a bastard mod.

I missed where you hinted at this, so I am not sure how outing this now helps town, since you were already clearly town. 
It was in response to mike, who is likely scum. If he is scum then scum definitely know about it, so I'd rather have the information on the table for town as well. The main reason for outing this though is if I am night killed and the recruiter recruits scum, town gets literally no information about who was recruited. My plan enables us to vocalize who we will target at the end of the phase, so if that situation occurs, you will know who scum is. Of course is scum gets lucky and blocks or kills the recruiter, the plan is miffed, but I am hoping the recruiters identity will be a mystery.

What does this mean? Don't we all die upon death?
Mis-spoke: Dies upon recruitment of scum.

This is unfortunate because as the best town read, we cannot rely as much on your reads now.
That's probably okay, the only real solid  read I have atm is mikal, and most of my other reads aren't that stable anyway. I guess it's safe to assume that mikal is not the recruiter from me saying this.
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@Mikal
Cue Supa saying that he doesn't buy your claim because of his role.