XMAS 2020 Mafia - Day Phase 1

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@Bullish
why did u answer for Lunatic. How would u know his reasoning.
Because I read the back and forth and gave my interpretation of what was going on, though I did not profess to know his reasoning. I simply said that Danielle mentioned it first, and Lunatic's questions were actually aimed at determining what her statement covered. I generally like to set the record straight where I can because I don't like to let an accusation fester. Feel free to look back at previous Mafia games, I do this all the time.

Why would u ask if speed softclaimed? If he wanted town to know he softclaimed he'd tell us. Otherwise you're either 1) letting mafia know Speed softclaimed, or 2) ur sucm trying to fish for a claim with no pressure.
I didn't ask if he softclaimed. I said that I was uncertain whether he did or not. Both of those scenarios are absurd. If I was scum, why would I seek to let mafia know that Speed did this in open chat instead of in the mafia chat? Also, that's a pretty poor performance if I'm fishing for a claim from Speed. Not sure how you thought I would somehow get him to claim by implying that he might have already softclaimed, but that seems like awfully weak reasoning. I was trying to generate a list of all claims on the table at that time. Speed corrected me, noting that he was joking instead of softclaiming. I accepted that and moved on. I don't understand why you are reading into something that just displays my ignorance, but nice tunneling.

would ur wife approve
She would probably be fine as long as we're careful and eat outside. She's more nervous about the pandemic than I am, but she still takes risks.
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@Vader
I don't have a problem claiming and will do so right now, I am Santa Clause. 

Can we get a spelling check? 

Are you Santa Clause as in the 1994 Tim Allen movie?  or Santa Claus as in St. Nick?

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@Speedrace
Your character does though, right? Roles aren't supposed to be connected to christmas lol
ya my character does

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oromagi            Cindy Lou Who      INNOCENT CHILD
TOWN
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MisterChris 
Pie 
LikeMagic                                             HATED
that1user 
Supa                     Santa Clause
drafterman 
Bullish 
WaterPhoenix 
SCUM
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@WaterPhoenix
i think i have a good idea of the theme
might as well throw it out there
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@Bullish
That1 is sus for bring up jester. Bringing up 3rd parties is a classic scum tell.
i mean, we already have an anti town role (innocent child) the chances of having a 3rd party right now aren't as low as the chances of having a two anti town roles.

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@Vader
No, we don't have to lynch the Hated, we just have to win the game before it gets to the point where their existence would give the Mafia a win.

Also, how do you not understand RVS, yet?
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@WaterPhoenix
i mean, we already have an anti town role (innocent child) the chances of having a 3rd party right now aren't as low as the chances of having a two anti town roles.
wut
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@LikeMagic
can you character claim, i want some more information before going any further with my theory.
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@drafterman
wdym "what" is having a role that is literally town confirmed at the start and free np1 kill for maf not anti town
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SupaDudz (oromagi) --1/7 votes 
iLikePie (Bullish) -- 1/7 votes 
Water (Pie) -- 1/7 votes 

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@WaterPhoenix
wdym "what" is having a role that is literally town confirmed at the start and free np1 kill for maf not anti town
Town confirmed role is by definition pro-town
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@WaterPhoenix
wdym "what" is having a role that is literally town confirmed at the start and free np1 kill for maf not anti town
Maf knows who town is so literally everyone is a free np1 kill xD

Having a town-confirmed player is literally only a good thing
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@WaterPhoenix
i think i have a good idea of the theme
I think I know too but I'd rather you not say

Also Magic already said she's not gonna claim
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is there any use in leaving a town conf person alive for maf? if one were to hypothetically be playing scum and they had two people that they didn't know the roles of but one was playing badly and was way more sus than the other, they'd kill the not sus one right?

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Also Magic already said she's not gonna claim
bruh

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@WaterPhoenix
wdym "what" is having a role that is literally town confirmed at the start and free np1 kill for maf not anti town
bruh
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@WaterPhoenix
bruh
bruh
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@oromagi
The Tim Allen Movie
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@drafterman
No I do. Wasn't directed at you if it was RVS, but more whiteflame.

And no I disagree. While we don't need too, keeping them alive for a certain period will only be a net detriment to the town due to the nature of the role. Therefore, if we already are a day short by your logic, why do we not VTNL
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@WaterPhoenix
Please tell me you did not say what I think you said
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@WaterPhoenix
A Innocent Child is a mod confirmed Vanilla. They literally have no negative utility in this game
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@That1User
I am not jester. But I always anticipate twists in Danielle's games. No reason this game would be different. 
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@Vader
Did I miss something? Why is OroMagi town confirmed?
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@LikeMagic
He is an innocent child. Check the OP
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I don't have any initial reads or scum reads so far. Idk if Speed was joking with his character claim or what not, but if that is his character, I have a slight FoS if everyone's role is related to Xmas.I did not think that was a character claim. Speed should def clarify though
I did not think his comment was an actual claim. Speed should clarify. 
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@WaterPhoenix
is there any use in leaving a town conf person alive for maf?
Yes, because they have to waste a kill on them over someone with a PR. There is no reason to lynch someone who is town confirmed

if one were to hypothetically be playing scum and they had two people that they didn't know the roles of but one was playing badly and was way more sus than the other, they'd kill the not sus one right?
Dude...are you scum? And yes they would kill the not sus one

VTL Water for full claim
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@LikeMagic
I did not think his comment was an actual claim. Speed should clarify. 
I did lol I said I was joking
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He's innocent child