Nationalism is racist

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@ethang5
If you apply the same standard as White Nationalist, then yes it is racist..... It is either a Nationalist or a Globalist.  Adding a color to it changes the meaning.  You either are or you aren't a Nationalist.
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I had to think about that one a little bit.  Interesting... I'm still thinking about it.
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It's so ironic that the left rushed to the bookstores to buy copies of 1984 right after Trump won to try to explain why Trump won, only to find out later that the state sponsored media doing all the gaslighting is actually on the left. It's almost as if they never learned in school that 1984 was actually a rant against socialism and socialist dystopias such as Venezuela and California and Detroit, and how socialists remain in power while living standards plummet.
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I never learned anything about 1984 in school.  I thought you were talking about the Van Halen album.
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Then nationalism itself is intrinsically bad. A thing Mopac objected to initially. How is nationalism bad?
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@ethang5
It's a dumb fantasy as there are no pure race nations anywhere on the globe, and never have been for thousands of years.
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I see no reason pure races have to have anything to do with nationalism. Trump has both black and white nationalists among his band of deplorables.
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@ethang5
Nationalism is not intrinsically bad, unless you are a globalist and don't agree with it, even then I don't think it is bad to love one's country.  But, if you are identifying a certain race or color in front of it, that means you are singleing out your own race, and don't care about nationalists of a different race than you.  There is no reason at all to put a color in front of the word, unless you have bad intentions.  

In that sense Black, white, yellow, green, brown, red... doesn't matter the color, if it is before Nationalist, it is racist.

It's like being a white chef... Who cares if the chef is white?

Now, you could say someone is a white gangsta rapper, because that is not very common, so the adjective has meaning.  But in the nationalism case, it is more like the cook situation above.
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I said there are no pure race nations existing anywhere on the globe.
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@Greyparrot
So?
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Then you just aren't looking
Kinda like you aren't looking at the likes, retweets, and followers of this supposedly hugely influential face of a growing white nationalist movement. 

The guy can't even hit 1k on like and retweets. You can shit on a camera and get more than that in a couple minutes. So popular, such growth, much influence, wow. 


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While we're at it, if someone who holds a particular ideology supporting a particular candidate means that candidate also supports that. Then by God, as a trump supporter, that must mean Trump also supports legalization of most drugs just like i do! Wait... no he doesn't? Well that's not right, cause if support means a person shares ur beliefs, then he obviously must support that, else the David Duke example doesnt make much sense.

But of course it applies, because everybody knows someobody supporting a person means the person they support shares their views. How ever could it mean anything else? As people only ever support those whose views match theirs... 😏. 

And thus we see, the stellar logic that brings about the conclusion: All Trump supporters must be white nationalists, because David Duke is one, and he says its true that Trump is!  Because when we all think of paragons of truth, accuracy, and sanity, David Duke is obviously like the first name on that list. I mean, what else has he been wrong about before except almost his entire belief system? But like, why would that at all be indicative of his perception of reality? Belief systems have nothing to do with that, nope, not in the least bit, and its certainly not a large influence of the beliefs we adopt. Nope, the accuracy of our perceptions obviously dont have anything to do with the accuracy of our perceptions... wait a second... 
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@Mopac
Nationalism isn't racist. It's a thoroughly sensible idea. The alternative is global governance, which is unsustainable because some level of internal cultural homogeneity is essential for political stability.

Imagining racism into existence is just what leftists do nowadays. Pay no heed to it.

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@Greyparrot
Hillary Clinton is a white supremacist confirmed. Turns out, there was no non white supremacist candidate in the 2016 election. In the biggest plot twist of them all, they both are and it was all just a ruse, a total case of deception, subterfuge, and chicanery 😮. After all, you saw the proof here, David Duke and Will Quig, two high ranking white supremacists supported each respective candidate. And as established, support for candidate A from person B means candidate A's beliefs and ideology matches theirs. This much we know to be true 👏
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@Greyparrot
Also, you see that interview of Richard Spencer by Dinesh D'Souza in the recent movie that was released where Spencer said such gems like:

- "ultimately the state gives rights to you.”

- said he did not admire Reagan but instead looked to presidents Jackson and Polk as role models.

"Party is just the vessel one uses"

- Identified himself as a progressive, specifically in line with a 1920's Democrat. 

-saying he embraces socialism, specifically nationalized healthcare and economic government control.

Except the racism, his platform is a progressives wet dream, and tbh D'Souza fmpov didnt really ask leading questions. Spencer took them there himself. I hazard to guess if he was actually trying to lead him, he probably could've gotten Spencer to admit to a crime he didn't commit or that he has a penchant for kicking babies 😂. For awhile Spencer's been trying to posture himself as right-wing, and in one sentence, "ultimately the state gives you rights." he ruined it all. Gotta call it for what it is, absolute shenanigans. 
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@Mopac
Mopac, your not honest with yourself.

There is no apolitical position. To not vote democrat is to support and encourage mentally unstable USA president who likes to surround himself with mafia-like thugs, bullies and sick-n-the-head people.

Nationalism > end of humanity { all people ergo global community, Duhh! }

Earthian-ism > survival of humanity and the ecological environment that sustains us.

Ignorance is bliss and allows people to ignore the truth. Eventually the truths they ignore may come around to bite them in the butt.

Nip this unstable mentality in the bud or it may become the norm.  It is racist, bigoted and unnecessarily violent.


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@mustardness
I simply don't see it that way, and I don't appreciate you calling me racist. I am in a biracial marriage.

I don't see the democrats as being anything other than crooks either, so what is the difference? I have to live with other people's bad decisions no matter what.
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Mopac, that you "dont see" and dont see the differrence between idio-ump/Trumpanzees and democrats is signs of your being dishonest with yourself or just plain ignorant.  Those who choose to remain ignorant are useally mentally depressed people who shun the world so as to maintain the what little little sense of order and hope they may find bits and pieces of.

Vote democrat or continue to support racism, bigotry, maif-like thugism/bullism and uneccessar hate/anger and violence by nacrcisst and his sheeple Trumpanzees Sad :--(

To stand by and do nothing is the same as voting for idio-ump and the trumpanzee nonsense and mental instability.

This is simple to grasp stuff and you need to get some spinal chord courage, if your truly think your against all of the negatives I mentioned in this thread.  Well can you, ____?
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@mustardness
Excuse me, I do see a difference.

Honestly, the democratic party looks more like how you describe the republicans to be than how republicans look.


The kind of rhetoric you are speaking here is exactly why I don't take democrats seriously when they blame the president for using divisive rhetoric. Clearly, there is a lot of hatred, divisiveness, and fearmongering coming from the left. 

I mean really, look at what you are saying. You are demonizing and insulting your political opponents while calling them the bigots.

You aren't convincing.



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@Mopac
You are demonizing and insulting your political opponents while calling them the bigots.
That one is going to go way over his head. You might have to reword that into a more monosyllabic wordage.

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Never read the book I see. One doesn't really expect to find a valid education in America.
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@Buddamoose
Actually the key to recognising Trump as a white supremacist, nationalist is hearing him speak, yes it's painful watching and hearing such a narcissist publicly masturbate but their is no mistaking his hatred of the underclasses.
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Actually the key to recognising Trump as a white supremacist, nationalist is hearing him speak, yes it's painful watching and hearing such a narcissist publicly masturbate but their is no mistaking his hatred of the underclasses.
You misspelled Deplorables.
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Not in my post, but I do pity their inability to think.
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Orange man bad.
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@disgusted
I love hearing people from other countries trying to influence our elections, and telling us what we are supposed to think and how dumb we are if we don't agree.  It is your right to do so, but don't pretend you know anything about the USA, and what it is like over here. You can read all the books you want about us, doesn't prove that you know more than any American who actually lives here.

Brexit was a prime example of Nationalists speaking out in the UK.  Are the 52% that voted for it racist?
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@Mopac
You aren't convincing.
Neither are you. The truth is obvious to those who are not Trumpanzees ---like you--  ergo ingnoring truth of this narcisst president words of hate and actions.

1} press is enemy of the people.  You and he need to go try out countries where there exists no free press so as you will appreciate what USA has,

2} so popular he could shoot person on the street and would not effect his popularity, which speaks to charactor of Trumpanzees and idio-ump,

3} oh god the list goes on and  on. If your celebirty you can grab any p___y you want ergo president is celebrity and his moral behaviour is not of any significance,

4} the amount of lies, and misleading statements for greater than any president of congressman ever, except for those who have gotten in during idio-umps term,

5} the list goes on and on of any signs of moral integrity with this idio-ump and those nationalist, racist, bigoted, ignorant Trumpanzees.

Sure, the degree of of those lack luster qualities vary within the whole set of Trumpanzees, however, the bottom line is this;

if you dont vote democrat, you supporting and encourgaging the high degree of negatives idio-ump Ive listed ---and many more Ive not recalled here.

Those who dont vote either way ---apolitical-- is not a valid position as it is sticking your head in a hole in the ground, while still farting methane into the atmossphere  and thinking an apolitical position exists. It does not exist.

It is hiding lack of courage steer the systems of the government this way or that way.

Lock The Trumpanzees and Idio-ump Away! Far Away Today!



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@Greyparrot
You misspelled Deplorables.
Greyparrot is spelled correctly.  Please try and have some intellectual integrity even if you can have no moral integrity.

Here is photo narcissitic crying baby. Some think it is horseface. This is controversy because Putin also have face of a horse.

Notice how much idio-ump and Putin look alike. They are emotionally immature brothers with little access to their empathetic centers. Sad :--(



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@mustardness
1} press is enemy of the people.  You and he need to go try out countries where there exists no free press so as you will appreciate what USA has,
The press is a direct threat to democracy when 90% of the press is focused on reversing the results of a democratic election using fake news.
2} so popular he could shoot person on the street and would not effect his popularity, which speaks to charactor of Trumpanzees and idio-ump,
No president should be afraid to kill to protect the country from invaders.
3} oh god the list goes on and  on. If your celebirty you can grab any p___y you want ergo president is celebrity and his moral behaviour is not of any significance,
All politicians are celebrities.
4} the amount of lies, and misleading statements for greater than any president of congressman ever, except for those who have gotten in during idio-umps term,
No politician is truthful.
5} the list goes on and on of any signs of moral integrity with this idio-ump and those nationalist, racist, bigoted, ignorant Trumpanzees.
Rarely will any politician accomplish so much or fulfill so many campaign promises.