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  • Wagyu
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    As a follow up of my Satanism forum, I am starting a petition where, if successful, users on DART will be able to manually type their preferred gender, and religion. 

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    I'm anticipating many Attack Helicopters.

    I second this. 
  • Polytheist-Witch
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    I have not problem with it. Pagan is pretty vague and I would love to be more specific. 
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    You have my signature
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    Yahoo
  • Wagyu
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    bump
  • Mharman
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    Attack helicopters? I prefer toasters.
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    toasters in bathtubs
  • fauxlaw
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    According to the OED, relative to human biologic condition, "gender = sex," i.e., male or female. Only in grammar is "gender" defined as nouns  and pronouns[sometimes verbs] which are masculine, feminine, neutral, or common. Only by cancel culture phenomenon is the biologic condition of "gender" multiplied beyond male and female. Many multi-gender advocates refer to the variations as a ""social construct." Sorry, words mean what they mean. Only by cultural majority do meanings change over time, because culture drives language; not the other way around.
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    Let's not, the psychological definition, which in terms of gender has more authority than the OED, says they are distinct. No.
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    Let's not, the psychological definition, ...has more authority than the OED
    According to whom? Wiki? You do know what Wiki says of its own accuracy...
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    Also, you are just factually incorrect

    Usage
    On the difference in use between the words sex (in sense 2 above) and gender, see

  • Theweakeredge
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    No. Not wiki, the American Psychological Association Dictionary of Psychology

    gender
    n.1. the condition of being male, female, or neuter. In a human context, the distinction between gender and sex reflects the usage of these terms: Sex usually refers to the biological aspects of maleness or femaleness, whereas gender implies the psychological, behavioral, social, and cultural aspects of being male or female (i.e., masculinity or femininity).
    2. in linguistics, a grammatical category in inflected languages that governs the agreement between nouns and pronouns and adjectives.

  • fauxlaw
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    the American Psychological Association Dictionary of Psychology
    So, the PADP is justifying its own authority? I could do the same, but the claim will not fly any further than your willingness to agree. I'm talking third-party, you know, like peer review? Let someone else of sufficient academic acumen claim the authority in the Shrink Dictionary. Such as https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/how-the-oxford-english-dictionary-went-from-murderers-pet-project-to-internet-lexicon. for the OED. You might also read "The Professor and the Madman"
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    Your quote from lexico does what many dictionaries do, today, trying to be relevant. But in lexico [which, though "powered by oxford' is not the OED] it notes the original use of "gender," not as a sexual or even human societal definition, but one of grammar.  Root cause is the task we seek, which authenticates the OED as the ultimate dictionary of the English lexicon.
  • 3RU7AL
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    --> @Wagyu
    As a follow up of my Satanism forum, I am starting a petition where, if successful, users on DART will be able to manually type their preferred gender, and religion. 
    100% THIS.
  • 3RU7AL
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    Do you realize that HERMAPHRODITES were recognized in ancient GREECE?

    There are demonstrably more than TWO "sexgenders".

    This is not a "new" idea.
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    That's an article describing why its a dictionary, not giving it the credentials to have authority over this, the American Psychological Association's Dictionary is the very accreddited. Every dictionary does what you claim, not only that, but the source was not "a peer reviewed article" you are incorrect.

    The APA Commission on Accreditation (APA-CoA) is the primary programmatic accreditor in the United States for professional education and training in psychology. As such, it accredits programs, not institutions or individuals. APA-CoA accredits doctoral graduate programs in clinical psychology, counseling psychology, school psychology and combinations of these areas. The Commission also accredits doctoral internships in the aforementioned areas, as well as postdoctoral residencies in traditional (clinical, counseling, school) or specialty areas of health service psychology. 

    APA accreditation is voluntary, and there are currently more than 396 accredited doctoral programs, approximately 645 accredited internship programs, and more than 174 accredited postdoctoral residency programs.

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    This is not a "new" idea.
    Did I say it was? No. And the ancient Greeks, even. in their religion, recognized Hermaphroditus, an androgen of male/female features. Back to the two sex types, just mixed. my distinction holds.
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     Every dictionary does what you claim
    No, every dictionary does not.

    My OED definition of 'salt' is some 34 column inches. What other dictionary does that? The whole bloody OED, in print from, is 20 volumes of 6- and 8-point type. It comes with a magnifying glass. What other dictionary does that?
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    So... you gonna ignore the fact that the APA IS accredited. It has the authority to make that distinction, and the expertise, so I am perfectly justified citing it, and am being more topical then you.
  • Sum1hugme
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    Petition seconded
  • 3RU7AL
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    Back to the two sex types, just mixed.
    If you mix yellow and blue you get green.
  • fauxlaw
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    Well, at best, that only happens less than one percent, bio-genetically. And I can photoshop back to blue and yellow. And out of none it do you get red.
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    Well, at best, that only happens less than one percent, bio-genetically.
    How does this change the fact that not everyone is 100% girl or 100% boy?