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@3RU7AL
Political Compass gives me a libertarian stance even when I answer 100% honest without 'tweaking' based on stats.
So, if you consider me authoritarian, take it up with the quiz.
Simple yet accurate political quiz. America/modern-day specific. 2 Options per question, 9 outcomes.
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@3RU7AL
By the way, you think far too simplistic. I use a VPN nearly 24/7 for my general browsing and value privacy and protection against abusive governments more than you know. I know what is at stake and that often too much freedom allows a new bunch of thugs to violently overthrow and take reigns because they were 'free' to do so without enough obstacles in place to safeguard the people.
You think it's all so simple because you think 'freedom' isn't self-defeating at any times.
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@RationalMadman
So, it would seem that even though our positions are an exact match on your political survey, this glosses over our significant disagreements on personal privacy.
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@3RU7AL
Exactly.
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@3RU7AL
I value personal privacy, I also am willing to surrender it if it comes down to reason to suspect me. I'm a reasonable guy in many respects and my views reflect that, across the board.
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@RationalMadman
Political Compass gives me a libertarian stance even when I answer 100% honest without 'tweaking' based on stats.So, if you consider me authoritarian, take it up with the quiz.
It sounds like you're a functional libertarian who still has faith that a "good king" is the ideal option.
Bad invasions of privacy are bad.
Good invasions of privacy are good.
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@3RU7AL
Yes that is 100% my stance.
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@RationalMadman
Exactly.
Do you still believe your "left" vs. "right" one-dimensional scale is better than the alternative (4 quadrant map)?
Just based on this one brief conversation, I wouldn't personally say we are an "exact match" politically speaking.
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@RationalMadman
Yes that is 100% my stance.
You're not getting a result that matches your self-image because your position is incoherent.
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@RationalMadman
I use a VPN nearly 24/7 for my general browsing and value privacy and protection against abusive governments
Does your VPN provider have your credit card info?
I would not say it is at all accurate, I didn't agree with either choice on the majority of the questions and most choices are just regurgitated, establishment political/media talking points.
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@sadolite
That is fine, pick the one closer to your view, not the one you agree with.
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@3RU7AL
Yes, and it would take one look at my devices to know I use a VPN, I am not ashamed? There are nations where it's illegal, those nations have very high privacy for the people in charge, do you now see how it works?
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@3RU7AL
You're not getting a result that matches your self-image because your position is incoherent.
No, you just can't comprehend it, there is a difference between coherence in your perception and the actual capacity to make coherent sense of it if one thought differently.
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@3RU7AL
Do you still believe your "left" vs. "right" one-dimensional scale is better than the alternative (4 quadrant map)?
Lol. I see more dimensions, not less. I also understand that it's impractical to have a 20-scaled system of political belief differences when discussing which political stance one supports more or less than another. there's more than four, not less, and I also would like you to know that auth vs lib is not a genuine scale, instead auth vs lib in the political compass is an illusion and isn't a scale at all. A person can be very authoritarian on one issue and extremely anarchic/libertarian on another.
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@RationalMadman
But they advance to the last switch, 450 volts, a dangerous severe shock, XXX, because they're politely told to.
The results are terrifying and depressing.
They suggest that the kind of character produced in American society can't be counted on to insulate its citizens from brutality, and inhumane treatment in response to a malevolent authority. [LINK]
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@RationalMadman
A person can be very authoritarian on one issue and extremely anarchic/libertarian on another.
Please explain.
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@3RU7AL
A person can be very authoritarian on one issue and extremely anarchic/libertarian on another.Please explain.
What is your stance on businesses and the people who rank high in them?
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@3RU7AL
I am aware of the Milgram experiment and actually I am the type of guy who would literally say 'fuck this keep the money' and walk out of the experiment even threatening to report them to the police if they tried to stop me walking out.
That being said, I don't deny that most comply, nor do I see how that proves any point you've made. The movie is wrong, it has nothing to do with American society, the average human being is compliant to authority, it will always be the baseline because in the past people who weren't team players either were killed off or at least were isolated and didn't get a wife/husband to reproduce with and spread their seed. The is is why in all cultures, I am fairly certain that the majority would comply.
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@RationalMadman
That's just it, neither option is close. The choices are to broad and one size fits all.